To paraphrase Scott Manley; they got the rocket science down but need to work on their bolt science
(Fly safe)
Real life Kerbal Space Program accident.
Except the test facility was dangerously close to city resulting at minimum in an enormous amount of broken windows (clearly heard in the recorded videos) and no doubt damage to people associated with large volumes of windows breaking.
Sounds pretty Kerbal to me.
Hot dam you are right lol.
Someone messed up their staging... again.
Lives were lost, equipment destroyed, lessons has been learned-ish.
But at least they already figured out how to land on the Mun and come back. They just need to go back to a previous save.
I feel slightly better knowing that the Chinese suffer from Chinesium-based products as much as we do.
They suffer far more than anyone else from it. I mean just last week another rocket malfunctioned, lost a fuel tank that crashed close to a nearby village, enveloping homes in toxic gas. And spacecraft catastrophes are only the tiny tip if the tip of the iceberg.
I don't think that was a malfunction...
That was 'working as intended'.
I suspect it's actually worse there. This guy has a series called "China fakes everything" which is worth watching
I watched a couple videos from this channel and done a bit of research and:
I would recommend not to listen to a random guy who claims to be an "insider"
I don't think what he's saying about Falun Gong is so far fetched to be outside the realm of plausibility.
There's been enough reports of similar treatment of other groups, like the Uyghurs and Tibetans, from reputable sources that I believe something is going on there.
As for sources, if the CCP is half as bad as he makes them out to be, it would be irresponsible of him to give sources.
I don't know enough to refute anything you've said, but frankly you're less credible than him right now. I mean no offense but you have a single comment on your account and you've offered nothing to support your claim of twisted truth.
Too much smoke to conclude there's no fire
I'm not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP, but he specifically say that, and I quote: "Falun Gong is a meditation practice that started in 1992 in China. At the core of the Falun Gong are values of truthfulness, compassion and tolerance." But the omits the fact that that group is anti gay, anti feminism, anti evolution, is anti medicine and is leader is worshipped as a deity. I wouldn't consider someone who spread such lies as a good source, because at that point he could be lying about anything, that's Alex Jones level of manipulation of the Truth. And you're right, the CCP is a terrible dictatorship, b8t all the info that I have said are freely accessible by an internet search, or even on Wikipedia, they're not some hidden secret that need protection from the CCP such that he have the right to just say things without having to prove them.
And yes, I only have this comments, I prefer to just lurk usually, but this doesn't invalidate my points.
I’m not saying that the persecution against Falung Gong is fake, actually I believe is true, violence against minorities is another Wednesday for the CCP
The Falun Gong was originally an ally of the CCP as recently as 1993. They had a falling out when some of their chief leadership got caught in a string of financial scandals and abuse allegations. Attempts by the state to begin prosecuting church leaders triggered an outcry from the membership, which prompted more arrests and more efforts hide the organizations money, and finally a wholesale exodus from the country by its most devoted members.
Falun Gong leadership arrived in the US and immediately began churning out anti-China spin, with the help of the Epoch Times - an originally Chinese-only paper primarily distributed in Chinese ex-pat communities by church refugees. If you get into the history of the Epoch Times, you should very quickly discover that it is not a reliable source of information.
Which isn't to say China's been great wrt religious freedom or free association. But the modern incarnation of Falun Gong has more in common with Scientology than, say, Mormonism or Baháʼí. You're going to fall down some really QAnon-themed rabbit holes if you take everything their community is saying at face value.
That is some fine tuned measuring, my friend. Scientology Vs Mormonism. I appreciate you and your eye for detail.
Lurk less. You're making a good contribution here.
I feel better knowing that Chinese military partners get to feel the joy as well. (Curbs can be a bitch sometimes....)
The test stand is only about 5 km away from the city's downtown and less than a kilometer from a smaller village.
No NIMBY in The People's Republic (tm).
Not for long anyway.
The test facility was dangerously close to city resulting at minimum in an enormous amount of broken windows (clearly heard in the recorded videos) that were far from the closest homes. no doubt there was harm to people associated with large volumes of breaking windows.
I'm pretty sure it's ridiculously hard to stop government projects in your backyard there. The best you can do is refuse to sell your land.
It‘s impossible. You can protest against mid sized manufacturers that pollute the environment but you cannot do anything whatsoever against directly state baked companies that do the real damage at which point you might rightfully ask yourself: „Why bother about the environment or safety whatsoever? The state says it takes care of it and I have no say in it anyway.“
It won't matter if you do, unless you're a Party member. Example: the completion of the Three Gorges Dam was accompanied by forcing upwards of 30 million people to move. No compensation or new housing provided...just move somewhere else or you'll drown. Fascinating book based on his long term reporting (I think New York Times IIRC), "River Town" by Peter Hessler. He was there, he lived it.
Chinese don't own the land, the government is. And even if they own it, local officials can always call in the bulldozers midnight.
I think we've all been there
Uh, I guess that's why many of the more reasonable static test rigs have the rocket flat on the ground with a hill on the pointy side just in case.
That's for testing engines alone. Static fire is separate yes way further down the line when you have the rocket built and ready to fly
That's a different type of test for a different type of rocket.
Plus some bay or gulf, relatively quiet, very close by the site helps. It's too bad the Chinese don't have any of those.
Yeah, it was crazy how close a city was - one of the things Scot Manley went over
oopsy doodle
-rocket clamper guy
Actually - “structural engineering team”, you can see it was ripped apart when it came off the test stand.
They should probably not rip off rocket (from spacex) when they dont have the intelligence to engineer it in the first place.
Unintended catastrophic disassembly due to structural failure.
I saw this movie. Did it involve bringing kids to outer space and an AI robot that just wanted to help?
Gotta admire the rocket's enthusiasm.
I hear Boeing ordered 6 of these rockets all ready
Getting all my aerospace technology on Temu.
Maoist rocket says, "Fuck your imperialist and capitalist clamps" and commits revolutionary suicide.
Somebody just lost their job..
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