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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

For someone who came of age when "Apple" was always prefixed with "beleaguered computer maker", this is always very weird to see.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s shocking that Apple is the biggest tech company

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's what a cult who buys products and stock does for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's been that way for over a decade

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

How are Visa and MasterCard IT instead of financials? I realize they use and develop a bunch of tech, but it's all in support of their space in the financial sector

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Saudi aramco should never be on these lists because it barely counts as a company if it does at all

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it made the list based on being publicly traded

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Market capitalization, or market cap, is one measure of a company’s value as determined by the stock market. It is easily calculated by multiplying the company’s outstanding shares by its current share price.

In this graphic, we present a treemap chart that visualizes the world’s top 50 publicly-traded companies by market cap, using data as of Aug. 16, 2023.

Correct.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes it did. But unlike most publicly traded companies only a small proportion of the company is actually available as shares. The Saudi government controls 98.2% of the shares. So the $2.2tn valuation, while accurate, would likely not be as big if everyone else didn’t have to fight over 1.8% of the company. And unlike normal companies, the laws they follow can be changed if the company wants them to be. Buying shares of Saudi Aramco is like investing directly into the Saudi government.

Compared to the rest of the companies on this list, it is in a hugely different situation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In what way does it not count as a company?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://lemmy.ml/comment/3055032

Here is a link to another comment I just made, hopefully expanding what I meant in my original comment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just more similar to a majority privately owned company though, as the Saudi government is just the royal family. That doesn't mean its not a company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but the saudi government can and do change the laws to allow the company to make more money. It’s more akin to buying shares in Saudi Arabia than it is to buying shares in a company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As opposed to how the US government can and does change the laws to allow the company to make more money?

Yeah, obviously it sucks to support the Saudi royal family, but honestly, it's not any worse than buying shares in Raytheon, Northrup Grumman, Shell or BP. All of them are terrible companies doing terrible things to our world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the US government doesn’t do they. Not really. It’s highly illegal to do it for any reason that could be seen to be personal gain. You can’t count on any other country and company to bend the rules so that the company you invest in can benefit. Every other company on this list has to follow the law or face the consequences (those consequences may not be enough but that’s a different problem).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh, yeah, they do. They do it all the time?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But they don’t do they. You’re just making it up. If anything like that happens, it’s very rare and definitely not all the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Based on this list, it’s obvious Tesla is waaay over value.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I thought it was weird that Disney wasn't on there so I looked it up and their market cap is "only" $157B. I thought they'd have been a lot bigger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Mislabeled 'Health Care' .... that sector has very little to do with 'human health' or 'care'