this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2023
73 points (97.4% liked)

Hacker News

4123 readers
3 users here now

This community serves to share top posts on Hacker News with the wider fediverse.

Rules0. Keep it legal

  1. Keep it civil and SFW
  2. Keep it safe for members of marginalised groups

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.

all 8 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

believe it when you see it folks, it aint real until it’s law and implemented

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe we have to be careful for apple not to be doing any

Embracing, extending, and extinguishing.

Remember almost all mass polluting companies are involved with pro climate action and science, obscuring the data and vision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How could they possibly extend and extinguish right to repair Apple products?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As a official supporter they can start muddling the conversation.

Apple already has a way to allow diy repair but it requires buying an expensive specific set of apple tools. Thats a first step. They are saying “we are not stopping you from repairing yourself but you gotta play by our rules” They did this without any laws demanding them to so this is extend.

They will pretend that tere rules are the only way to guarantee no damage and user safety, ignoring that they can engineer the phones to be easier to repair from the start.

Even if they lose that battle it slows down progression, when things are discussed there going to demand experts join the table. Experts that may or may not have connections to apple and speaks in their interest. iIf they dont want a specific rule or law they can trow their ace card which is “we do supported this but not if that, then we and other tech leaders revoke that support”

When things dont go their way they can try extinguishing a certain ruling by trowing their ace card. “We and other companies stand by right to repair but if x and y then horrible z so then we will revoke our support”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

the implementation of this bill could still be tainted at this stage

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In a letter dated August 22, Apple showed its support for California's right-to-repair bill, SB 244, after spending years combatting DIY repair efforts.

As reported by TechCrunch, the letter, written to California state Senator Susan Eggman, declared that Apple supports SB 244 and urged the legislature to pass it.

California's final bill "should balance device integrity, usability, and physical safety" with the right to repair, Apple's letter reportedly says.

Apple's letter is a reverse-course on the battle against right-to-repair efforts that it's been fighting for a decade, as noted via Repair.org Executive Director Gay Gordon-Byrne through a US PIRG press release Wednesday.

That includes in California, where in 2019, The Verge and Motherboard reported that an Apple representative met with legislators, encouraging them to kill a right-to-repair bill over alleged consumer safety concerns.

Nathan Proctor, senior director of US Public Interest Research Group's (PIRG's) Right to Repair Campaign, wagered a guess to Ars:


The original article contains 824 words, the summary contains 153 words. Saved 81%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!