I swear we've done this before and the IP people got told to screw off.
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LOL i adore that they just can't grasp the fact that they will never win against pirates
The problem isn't really just piracy, though. I buy my content and I'm vehemently opposed to anything like this.
Because it's about control. Fuck most ISPs, but finding them liable gives them not just license, but effectively a mandate to massively spy on what users are doing on their connection and to even further restrict and shape what users are allowed to do on the internet. And we're already way past the line in that direction.
do you think they're not already spying on you? also, i'm skeptical that verizon will cancel thousands of paying customers, given that an IP address isn't enough to provably accuse the person tied to that IP of wrongdoing.
it can potentially get you a search warrant. you think the city of new york is going to serve thousands of warrants for the bitchass RIAA? i guess we'll see. i bet they end up paying a fine and that's the end of it.
but yea, you're already being spied on, and not just by the ISP. get a VPN and a hardened browser, but assume you're not anonymous anyway, ever.
I said it's already way over the line, but finding them liable would be an inherent push to go way farther when we should be criminalizing all of it.
Fining them a penny would be a catastrophic ruling that would massively degrade the internet. Holding an ISP vicariously liable for the actions of their users is a massive call to action for an obscene level of censorship.
I already take as much action as is reasonable to protect my privacy, but this isn't about me specifically.
all good points, but i'm still doubtful that verizon's going to be held liable, "vicariously" or otherwise. the RIAA has been losing for decades, and hobbling the entire internet might be the only way they win anything. good luck with that, RIAA
I don't think they will. I think the law is reasonably clear and they've been shut down on similar nonsense in the past.
I just meant to point out that I'm not just laughing at them failing and pirates will succeed regardless, because the implications of even one win with the consistent legal and political pressure they keep applying could get pretty bad for everyone pretty quickly. It's a real threat every time they pull harassment shit like this and don't get immediately slapped down by the judge.
RIAA We have alllllll this property that give us free moneys. We worked sooo hard to make it so we own things forever but have nooo way to enforce this. Yooou arent doing enough to support my free money train i worked so hard for.