this post was submitted on 20 Jul 2024
113 points (97.5% liked)

Asklemmy

43978 readers
645 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I post my ignorant opinions somewhere. There’s always someone who will correct me with correct information.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

I post my ignorant opinions somewhere. There’s always someone who will correct me with correct information.

Not always.

(see what I did there)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Would you say Poe is cunning, and likes ham?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I think you mean Cole's Law

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The life of the shitpoaster.

But for real comment section can be very useful to learn if you are willing to do it.

There is generally somebody who knows what they are talking about. Just got to figure out who.

Reddit had so much fluff and moderation as if they didn't want you to find good info.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well you see I’m a major GEN er alllllllllllll

But seriously Wikipedia, YouTube guides, enthusiast forums. Usually try to read from multiple sources

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There used to be these buildings full of books that I could just borrow for free.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Love books and huge fan of libraries but how do you find the right book in the ocean of books?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

"Don't you know the Dewey decimal system?"

Sorry, stupid reference. In seriousness though, type in a topic into your library's search and start browsing, check out a few that seem useful.

I'm an academic and I find my University's library useful for finding knowledge on a new topic. If an introductory textbook exists on the subject, can be a good starting point.

For Most hobbies though, youtube is a great resource. I've gotten into woodworking and fishing, and youtube is a superb resource for information.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Ask the librarian nicely and they'll probably be able to point you in the right direction. Cataloguing information is kind of their thing, and helping people get access to that information is why many of them join the profession.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Just sit at the library for a while, sit near the shelf that has the topic you're interested in and grab a few books at a time and go through them to see if any seem like the right book

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I was taught in school how to use the library catalog. It was considered essential, for success in life, at the time.

I actually do know how to use Dewey Decimal, if I haven't forgotten.

In these modern times, there's generally a PC near the information desk, with the browser home page set to a library catalog search tool, specific to that library.

And as someone else mentioned, we can ask the librarian for help, when we don't find what we need. I actually shortcut the process and ask for a quick lesson in how to use the search, if I'm feeling uncertain.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Don't watch or listen....READ!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Idk man. YouTube tutorials are pretty helpful. Especially when I was studying electricity. Those Indian dudes are geniuses

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do we have teachers then? Listening and watching is absolutely a valid strategy of learning. You just need to make sure that the speakers are trustworthy on the subject.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Watch and read as much youtube and article as possible, and try to join a discussion with open mind.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'd caveat that with watch reliable well researched channels and not pop-sci or even god forbid pseudoscientific, or pseudo-intellectual channels that seem helpful but are actually BS wrapped in foil.

Any of the PBS science channels are typically good for science.

How money works, Wendover, are great for Economics stuff.

The engineering mindset, practical engineering are great for engineering related stuff.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (4 children)

My flat earther forums have a stickied Q&A where you can find the real truth on any topic. Did you know that dolphins are aliens sent to spy on us?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

No, that's mice.

Dolphins are native but capable of space travel as they are far more intelligent than us. It's an understandable mistake to make.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Read. Write. Execute. RWX. I'm going to piss some people off. Here goes: you are wasting your time if you watch videos. At all. A video moves at the pace it plays. It is linear. You can't jump around easily. Reading? You can jump wherever you need immediately. You can have multiple sources at once. If you use a book, yes a physical book, you learn where things are and jump right to them. Read

Write down a paraphrased version of what you read. Do not copy. Include references so you can return to source if needed. Note taking is a skill. Your notes should be organized in a way you can skim what you wrote as easily as the sources themselves.

Execute. You don't learn anything unless you do it. I've had too many students who watch Khan Academy, and think they understand it when they haven't done it. They don't score well on exams. Not my fault. I told them they have to do it to understand it.

RWX. I await the flame war I just started with the video people.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Wikipedia rabbit holes every time lol.

I am fascinated by medical stuff, especially conditions I have and similar conditions. Spent like 2 weeks reading about so many kinds of diseases.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The same way as topics in my field of expertise, of course.

YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Follow up question: how do you find actual good and trustable channels on a specific topic?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Youtube comments can be strangely helpful here, sometimes. If there's a lot of "akshually" comments on every video, it may be a sign the youtuber is full of it. Not always true, but anything helps. Can also look up the youtuber's credentials as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You know that channels can curate which comments they have visible on their videos? Mostly this is used to silence hateful comments, but it's just as easily abused to remove all differing points of view.

If all the comments agree, you're probably in a curated bubble.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

sci-hub and annas-archive

I want to be less reliant on Wikipedia and Google Scholar, but in truth I still use them a lot

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you directly read papers on those topics? I tried doing that but I feel it requires a huge amount of background

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I am not the person you are replying to.

I read a lot of papers and it is hard if you don't have background knowledge of the subject. If it's something I am really interested in, then I will dive deep, if it's not I will probably let it go when I get to the point where I no longer grasp what's being said.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why do you want to be less reliant on Wikipedia?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Curious about this one too

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Wikipedia and books, depending on the subject matter and my degree of interest. For example, I've been reading historical research books because I love history. If it was something about the moon, it'd be Wikipedia and good enough.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A review paper from a reputable journal. The Annual Reviews series was great for this. Some of the Nature journals also used to run mini-reviews associated with research papers in the issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

For lesser known subjects, a literature review in a dissertation works. It at least gives you a list of papers to review.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I watch videos and read articles and use LLMs to give me the key points to grasp the basics. Then build upon that knowledge with more focused learning.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I do this plus follow competent people in those fields on Mastodon/reddit/etc for current news relevant to practitioners in the field

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I skim the Wikipedia page on whatever topic is being discussed and pretend to be an expert.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

My first stop is always Wikipedia. The rest of the internet is a minefield.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

That's what a forum is for.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Same way I’d inform myself on topics that are my field of expertise: reading, talking to experts, doing my own experiments and exploration, writing about it

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Escalate. Start with early digestible low quality sources (AI chat bots, short YouTube videos, old Reddit threads, etc.) to build a general familiarity with the subject matter space.

Once you grasp the basic vocabulary and concepts, you know well enough what questions to ask to find more nuanced discussions and the right Wikipedia rabbit holes.

If you need more comprehensive understanding than that, use your newfound familiarity to start skimming primary sources.

Once you get more involved than deep dives into primary sources, you start blurring the lines of developing a new area of relative expertise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Reading papers and contacting people in that field. I've found that university professors can especially direct you to materials in their field, and even like to chat about it sometimes. Half of my book collection was found this way.

load more comments
view more: next β€Ί