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Exclusive: The inside story of John Roberts and Trump’s immunity win at the Supreme Court | CNN Politics (www.cnn.com)

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Roberts made no serious effort to entice the three liberal justices for even a modicum of the cross-ideological agreement that distinguished such presidential-powers cases in the past. He believed he could persuade people to look beyond Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thing that is most amazing about the immunity ruling is that it a) hands the executive a giant mallet with which to smash whatever it wants (as long as it's called 'official' aka 'national security') but for the few times that it may get challenged, reserves the right to decide whether it was official or not to the same gang that handed over the mallet.

That gives them the right to declare anything they don't like by a president they don't favor as 'non-official' and whatever a president they like does as 'cool.' And good luck challenging something when you can't even take a look at the 'evidence.'

It's an elaborate construct designed to divert water in exactly one direction and not another, at least for the lifetime of this Chief Justice.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Chevron Deference says hi as well.

The fucking scumbags at the heritage foundation and federalist society got their government. They gave us this supreme court and now it will be the only branch that matters.

They've gerrymandered the fuck out of the country that Congress is perpetually useless, they've increased the power of the judiciary, and they've left the executive branch to have power that they deem acceptable depending on who is at the helm at the time.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This is the Roberts court’s legacy, the most politicized court in modern history, and the lack of all accountability or impartiality; politics is first and foremost. I’m not at all surprised, but it’s good to see this in writing.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Don't forget blatant corruption and a refusal to be held to any reasonable code of ethics!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The only thing I can think of is that Roberts and Co must think the rest of us are morons. His rationale seemed to be that he wanted to make sure the ruling applied to all presidents and not just Trump, but seemed to forget that Trump is known for pushing our system past the previously established political norms.

You can't say "Presidents need immunity so George W. doesn't get prosecuted for torturing terrorists at CIA black sites" without also realizing that you're giving Trump immunity for stealing classified documents and trying to overthrow our government.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ok, this "mostly factual," tells me absolutely nothing. What part is not factual? If the bot won't point out the lies then it's just a program version of captain obvious. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's an automatically generated recap of CNN's media bias rating as an entire news organization. It's not programming some kind of fact check response to this specific article.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't want to block the bot. I want the bot to actually be useful.

You don't stop wiping your butt if the toilet paper is thin, you fold it over and do what you can.

This bot is the equivalent of two ply tp. Yes it does the job but not well and everyone feels a little less clean afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

It's an admin-level bot. Feel free to leave feedback there, not here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It also calls CNN left center. 😂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What would you classify it as?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Center right to Americans, rightwing on the world stage.