“Trump has already lashed out at the special counsel … for asking for a trial date that would likely overlap with the Iowa caucuses” Do you mean you’d have to rearrange your schedule to accommodate a criminal trial due to your own actions?!? shockedpikatchu.jpg
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The ridiculous notion is that such things are entertained for anyone by our courts, but often are for "important" (possessing capital means) people.
Sure you're implicated in serious crimes, but the justice system will take your affluent schedule into consideration!
Watch a street dealer, aka a low income criminal ask to have their trial delayed by 3 years through a public defender and judge all but dictating they take a plea "deal" that only makes the court's life easier.
We crow about being a "developed, first world, wealthy nation" but just like the utter ruins of our K-12 system and our collapsing infrastructure, our pay to play justice system makes us anything but.
As much freedom as you can afford.
Law applied unequally means those in privilege will flaunt it and those still wanting, correctly, have no respect for it.
Fuck the law. Fuck the judges. Fuck the lawyers. Fuck the police. Might equals right in America. The winners will, and currently are, rewriting the histories to absolve them and their ancestors any wrongdoing.
Stop acting like there's some kind of decorum to uphold. If only one side is upholding it, news flash, it doesn't exist. You're just allowing yourself to be outmaneuvered. While any of y'all are up there on the high road, look down and witness the cruelty you arent protecting against. Keep clutching them pearls, cuz every minute more of us are being murdered by those sworn to protect and serve, or medicines that demand the culmination of your entire life's work. The law ≠ morality. This immoral, institutionalized, embodiment of corruption we're in can be summed up with this fact. Footage of whatever crime you are accused of, from police cams, citizens dash cams, private business security cams, the state will leverage it's power to use against you - but that power will actively be used against you if it exonerates you
So what I'm saying, is if your toes are dipped into the criminal courts, there is absolutely zero incentive to not go full cartel. Just wear a suit, sponsor a little league team, donate to both parties, the mayor and the police union and remember to let your obstacles well enough for an open casket, have some class after all, and you'll never see the inside of a cell.
Under a government that imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison - Thoreau
I’m a lawyer and I enjoy getting fucked. I also enjoy fucking. And conserving the fuck out of nature so that it exists in the future—so much so I do it for a living.
This J.D. fucks.
Dude wants to pardon himself. 😂
it's so obvious. it's like a toddler trying to swindle their parents.
OMG, thank you, that was the phrase I was looking for. LMAO
youre welcome 😁
These are state level charges, right? If he won reelection for president he could not pardon a state level conviction. Only the governor of a state can do that, which is still likely. What moving the trial would do is create a conflict for sentencing a sitting president.
This is the guy who said he could declassify documents using his mind. Whether it's legal or not, he'll say he pardoned himself and his legion of terrorists will use that as justification to continue to act like they're the good guys.
Incidentally, at least for the Georgia charges not even the governor can pardon him.
As a technically, he can, but only after time has been served. In Trump's case, that would probably mean posthumously.
Isn't there a board that does pardons in Georgia?
I thought it was the governor, but I'm not certain, you could be right.
This is a federal trial.
And while some governors can pardon convictions, the governor of Georgia cannot. There is a Georgia state board that can issue a pardon, but only after a sentence has been served.
Isn't it insane event there are so many concurrent trials Etc going on state and federal for a former president that it's genuinely hard to keep track of them all. And his cult are ready to elect him again.
This particular trial is for the federal charges in DC.
Oh, my fault. You're right. This is my mistake for getting confused about multiple trials.
Pretty crazy that it's hard to keep a former president's federal crimes trials straight. And the guy is still leading by far in the Republican primaries. Less than ten years ago, Howard Dean's campaign basically ended because people thought his enthusiastic yell was weird. Now we have a mess of people saying they'd still vote for Trump even if he's found guilty. It blows my mind.
I remember when Dan Quayle misspelled potato.
Simpler times
Yeah. Right there with ya. It's genuinely horrifying (to sane people) what a few decades of mind rotting propaganda from right wing media can accomplish.
Creating Fox News was definitely one of the most successful strategies ever concocted. Too bad for the country that the goals were so awful.
The judge referenced in this article is for one of the federal trials. He does have charges in Georgia that he wouldn't be able to pardon, but who knows how that would go down... leading the nation from a Fulton country correctional facility doesn't sound like fun.
I don't trust any of these assholes. They can pull a lot of tricks. Corruption is innate to them
We should not entertain the notion that anyone has to power to self-pardon.
I mean yes, he'll try it if he's elected, and his pet Supreme Court judges may even allow it, but the very notion is absurd.
Oh absolutely. Shit is crazy as is, we don't want a damn dictator in this country.
But the judge also said that she would reject a proposal by federal prosecutors to bring the case to trial in less than five months.
There's nothing unreasonable about that. There's too many witnesses to interview and too much evidence to review otherwise. Last thing anybody wants is to railroad the trial.
What gives you that idea? 5 months is plenty of time. He performed a failed coup on the US, we have it on video.
Edit: The judge gave them a month or two extra, it's fine. Non-televised which is a shame.
A federal judge on Monday set a March 4, 2024, trial date in former President Donald Trump’s criminal election interference case, putting the top Republican presidential candidate on trial in Washington, D.C., seven months before the 2024 general election.
It's not a hand to hand drug transaction or a traffic violation. A vigorous defense for a criminal conspiracy needs time. It certainly doesn't need two years, but we're also not at the point of suspending the rule of law and putting folks against the wall.
He was at the point of trying to be king and all he has to do is stop firing his lawyers, lol. 5 months is fine, 7 months is the next best thing.
It's important that the system is followed. It demonstrates that even the worst criminals will be treated fairly and equitably under the law. In a very real sense the institutions that we have spent 250 years perfecting are being tested themselves
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This trial is now scheduled to start on March 4, so the defense has about six months to prepare.
While you have your calendar open, the New York hush money trial is set for March 25 and the federal stolen documents trial is set for May 20. The Georgia election interference trial date is not yet set.
Next year is going to be epic.
I see it as episode 10 of what will be the eventual mini-series.
As much as I'm looking forward to it we need a unanimous jury to convict him and those seems like very slim odds. It might all come down to the voters. If Trump is re-elected he may face zero consequences.
https://www.vox.com/trump-investigations/23832341/trump-charges-prison-time-sentence-indictments
Can't wait for season 10 to drop.
But seriously, March is going to be epic indeed if the trial dates remain unchanged. May have to resub to some of the news outlets I dropped this year so I can get multiple news sources for each fascinating development.
Good for the judge.
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It'll start on Jan 6, 2024? Neat!
Article said March 4th
Unfortunately that is a Saturday 🙁
A little too late to be standing up to him now, but hey better late than never.
Excellent. He's had enough delays. Five months is more than enough time as he'll have had 3 years to prepare for a trial such as this.
Holy crap, mf really had the nerve to ask.
he has no shame
His lawyers did... It is literally their job, unfortunately for them
All the GQP men couldn't put Trumpty Dumpty together again.
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