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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The Democrats care about not alienating you (if you're a corporate or ultra -wealthy entity).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Alternatively, they could vote for Trump who has already stated his desire to increase all bans on Muslim immigrants. How long before his racist leadership tries to outright deport all Muslim citizens for not being "white enough"?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (14 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I mean at this point Shapiro isn't even a presumptive nominee, he's just one of the possible candidates. I think the only reason he's even being considered is because he might bring in some extra votes in a large swing State.

It's odd to me that so many Arab voters are leaning towards Stein. As much as we hate it, this is still a two-party nation, and in an election where the votes might be close why would you take any chances in basically throwing away your vote? Personally I would still cast my ballot for the candidate who hasn't directly threatened my family. Then again polls are not ballots, and as we get closer to November a lot of people's opinions could still change.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (8 children)

It's worth considering that maybe Arab and Muslim voters aren't stupid and they have a point. If we assume that both parties really want to win (and with Dems that is definitely an if), then the worst thing you can do to persuade them to listen to you is to vow to vote for them unconditionally. If the constituency keeps approving a genocide and the genocide remains profitable, why ever would the Dems offer an anti-genocide candidate? Conversely, if hardline opposition to the genocide loses the Dems an election, suddenly next time around their pro-genocide ghouls aren't "electable" and they need to actually pick someone who will give the people some of what they want, almost like there's a popular mandate or something!

All of this is giving a thousand times more credence to liberal democracy in general and America's in particular than I actually have, but there are many ways of thinking beyond "Well, what are you going to do about the two party monopoly?", most of which involve thinking past a single election cycle.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (8 children)

The fact that he is even likely is insulting.

If Democrats want Arab and Muslim votes maybe they shouldn't even consider someone who volunteers to kill Palestinians and calls them savages as VP?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

You're so right homie, Arab Americans just need to suck it up and vote for genocide and 99% fascism, or else it'll be entirely their fault when we end up with genocide and 100% fascism. They wouldn't want that on their conscience, would they? So true!

Die.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Why are all the Arabs doing the right thing? Don't they understand they are supposed to do the wrong thing?

If all other people joined the Arabs there would be no more two party system.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He is absolutely going to be the nominee.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really hope not, there are certainly better candidates on her short-list... but unfortunately we don't really have a say in that part. Guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks, at least she's announced her candidates early enough that the shit can hit the fan on the internet and give her a heads-up about certain choices being wildly unpopular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I hope not too. But Netanyahu talks and the Democratic party listens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately both parties listen to him. It's all rather disgusting.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why would they vote for Harris, who has already stated her desire to support Israel's genocide and ethnostate? How long before her racist leadership tries to outright deport all Muslim citizens for being "too anti-semitic"?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now you're just trying to impress Republican policies onto Democrats. Democrats accept immigrants and welcome the diversity into our country, Republicans just want to deport everyone who isn't a "true white American".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

They could also just stay home thonk

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Democrats are genociding Muslims rights now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Probably just as long as the Democratic candidates. They have the track record.

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