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Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, fired back at pro-Palestinian protesters of Israel's war in Gaza as they interrupted her speech during a Wednesday night campaign rally in Detroit.

"You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I'm speaking," Harris said with a long stare, drawing loud cheers from supporters in the crowd before chants of, "Not going back!"

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

Trump existing is the biggest gift the Democrats have ever gotten and they still lost an election to him. Their fundraising skyrockets if Trump is involved on the other side and they don't have to do anything because they just keep yelling about the boogyman. It's exactly how Republicans use the immigration issue and how Netenyahu uses Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If Kamala doesn't want Trump to win, then she should probably do what the voters are asking of her. --Whatever that is. Not listening to the voters could make her the second person to ever lose a presidential campaign against Donald Trump which would make her utterly pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I think the whatever that is is the problem. What would be enough in the israeli situation?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (13 children)

"Don't protest our complicity in genocide or else you'll lose democracy and freedom."

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

They don't want him to win, they want to push her on this issue.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Genocide will continue as schedule.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Holy fuck it’s like everyone commenting on this post simply refuses to understand the deeply dismaying and unfortunate - but very real - amount of influence AIPAC has on the entirety of the US political system.

I agree that it’s stupid and bad. But not admitting that it’s a real influence that has the potential to, you know, help the fucking fascists win is absolutely, categorically idiotic.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

"We have to let Israel do genocide or they'll install fascism in the US."

Uh.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I feel like AIPAC is just a way for US politicians to get a higher salary. The feds give Israel money and an Israeli government associated agency gives politicians money directly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I wish she'd try triangulating instead. Maybe champion the idea of enforcing globally agreed upon rules and connect that to taking on the "Trumps of other nations"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Dumb. Acting like the good cop to Trump's bad cop routine is turning tons of people off. "You'd better cooperate with me now or I'll have to bring my associate in here, and he won't be so nice!"

Supposedly Harris told a representative of the uncommitted voting bloc from the Dem primaries that she was down to meet to discuss an arms embargo on Israel, but I wouldn't hold my breath. She needs to be more forthright about her stance, because the subtextual indications of being flexible on this and her hypothetical empathy for Palestinians I keep hearing about (but not really seeing in any meaningful way) are not cutting it anymore.

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