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The Tesla owner said getting stuck in his driveway was "annoying as hell," and he tried everything from hosing the car down to jumping the battery.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's news because it’s anti-EV propaganda funded by the gas industry. Articles like this exist solely to get car buyers on the fence to not buy an EV.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (13 children)

No, just buy a Nissan Leaf...

Not all electric vehicles are Tesla...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nissan Leaf batteries are air cooled instead of water cooled. I wouldn't buy one, especially in a hot area.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Water cooled things are air cooled. The difference is in noise and where it's located.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you mean that water cooled has a radiator, which is then air cooled? Not the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As someone in the UK. What is this hot weather you talk of?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree, but it doesn’t matter. The average shopper associates teslas with all EVs. They see this article and think “no chance I’m getting locked out of my gas car! Ill never buy and EV!”, not “no chance I’m getting locked out of my EV! I’ll buy a Leaf instead of a Tesla!”

Which is the exact goal of this article.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Average American consumer. In the UK, Prius was massive hybrid wise. Tesla is at premium end now, but Nissan always had a presence.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or a Hyundai if you don't want to pay a subscription to unlock your doors

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Would recommend this over the Leaf, but if I recall correctly, Hyundai's latest EV's may not have a manual outdoor door release. You won't get this in US markets, but in Europe and Australasia, I do know the MG is cheaper than both Nissan and Hyundai, and do have manual releases on all their doors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

and the leaf can be susceptible to this as well. its a 12v battery thing not a ev or ice thing.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

100% this. I wonder how many non-EV cars broke down in the heat but didn’t make the news…

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well, Elno is certainly doing his own anti-advertising campaign well. I'd never buy a Tesla because that dumbffffk who gives nazis a microphone will profit of it, but there are a lot of very good alternatives out there now.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If he ever read the manual for the car (no one ever does! they should!) he’d know you can remove the tow hook cover and connect a battery to the wires to open the frunk, then replace the 12v battery yourself if you’d like. Or if that’s too complicated, have it towed to a service center or mobile service fix it for you.

It’s just a car! Fix it yourself or take it to service! Why is this news?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That sounds needlessly more complicated than just having a regular lock mechanism like in most non-Tesla cars.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either way you're replacing the 12v battery before you're driving anywhere, Tesla or otherwise. Having a manual lock may be nicer for easier access under the hood in this case, but that's really it. Other automakers EVs also have issues with their 12v systems dying and bricking the cars until replaced, Hyundai's come to mind specifically. Newer Teslas have a lithium-ion low voltage battery (it's like 15v or something i think?) that shouldn't fail for the life of the car, so this is a non-issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I've had the exact same situation happen to me as in the post however Tesla's service has always replace the battery for free which really makes up for the hassle. It appears also that they are transitioning people to the new lithium ion 12 volt battery, even if your current never came with it originally.

My frustration with this process is that Tesla uses a 12 volt battery that is not easy to come by unless you go through Tesla service. Sometimes you just need your car immediately and will replace the 12 volt when it dies but you can't find this bastard at your local auto parts store.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Seriously, this is why modern cars suck, and cost a fortune.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I’ve seen this exact issue end up as a mainstream news story more than once now. I don’t completely understand it either. The process to unlock if the battery is dead takes maybe 10-20 seconds, and from there you charge or replace the battery just as you would if your battery was dead in a standard car. This would be the equivalent to someone with a standard vehicle that has a FOB with the backup key hidden inside. If that person didn’t know that key existed and complained that they were locked out of their vehicle because the FOB had a dead battery, it would be just as odd if it made it to the news.

Hate the car/brand if you choose to, you do have that right. Just don’t hate based on misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Some of it is that a 12v failure is much more of a pain in an EV, since you need low-voltage to trigger the high-voltage battery contactors in order to recharge the low-voltage battery. Many people don't know this, and then panic when their car appears very broken. Some non-Tesla EVs will throw downright bizarre errors and lights at you in this condition.

I'm optimistic we'll all learn about EVs and their common failure modes like we have with ICE vehicles over time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

you're vastly overestimating how comfortable most people are with cars and electricity

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the great thing about Tesla. There's always a simple solution to the problems nobody else has!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the completely unique to Tesla problem of checks notes a dead 12v battery and an owner who doesn't know how or care to service their vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just completely missed the point? My battery has died numerous times. I've always been able to get into my vehicle when it does.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is news because it's related to Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I have a model 3 in Vegas heat without issues. Just need to keep the car charged more in the temperature extremes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This happened to James May after he left his car sitting for a bit of time. It was a huge pain in the ass to fix it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This was the first thing I thought of when I saw this post. It was a real bitch to get to the small battery to power it himself. This was during the pandemic and was the first time I was like “hmmm maybe I don’t want a Tesla”. And, among many other reasons, I do not want a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This was the first thing I thought of when I saw this post. It was a real bitch to get to the small battery to power it himself. This was during the pandemic and was the first time I was like “hmmm maybe I don’t want a Tesla”. And, among many other reasons, I do not want a Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This happened to James May after he left his car sitting for a bit of time. It was a huge pain in the ass to fix it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Happens to gas cars too. Jump it or get it serviced. Not like Teslas are unique in this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it’s the fact that you can’t really open the car or the hood when that happens. If my Hyundai battery dies, I open the car door, the hood, and just replace the battery.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I know it’s not what you meant, but I giggled at the thought of James May in Texas with a big cowboy hat saying “oh cock”

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I don't see why a 12v battery would die in the heat any faster in an EV than an ICE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

hehe keyhole go click

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Battery dies, car doesn't work right. How is this news?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Compared to the car's main battery pack, the 12v battery is like a couple AAs. It's dumb that it couldn't use power from the main pack to unlock the car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How much does the temperature goes up to in Texas?

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