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Well done Ukraine, well done! Let's bring the war back to russia. Fuck putin.
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I've been hoping this would happen this whole time. It would be amazing if Z just conquered Russia.
Z?
The Ukraine president. I didn't feel like spellchecking his name.
It's Zelensky, but they were confused because "Z" has become a symbol of the Russian forces invading Ukraine.
you need another y: Zelenskyy. 🙂
Ze?
The Z-man.
The most rational 2023 summer offensive would have been a plunge into russia near volokanovka and turning hard right to enfilade their invasion, while blocking any forces attacking from the direction of moscow. It was so obvious I didn’t want to say it in case it had been missed by the defense. I can only assume a very frustrated ukraine was told they wouldn’t get their aid if they did it.
They could have done that but they wouldn’t have been able to use NATO supplied weapons. Only recently have they been lifting some of those restrictions. They could have bypassed all the Russian defenses had they done that
Is there a legit reason those restrictions were put in place to begin with? Serious question
Yes/no. Depends how extreme you are on the issue. Russia considers an attack on Russian land with nato weapons an act of war. Another reason is we didn’t want our weapons falling into Russian hands. We want to give Ukraine weapons to defend themselves but not escalate the war. I’ve always felt if you give them weapons; let Ukraine decide how to use them best. Russia just has too many people not to take the war to them. A war of attrition only leads to a Ukrainian loss. It’s just simple math.
In post Soviet Russia, Ukraine invades you
If nothing else, having to bomb your own country to keep up a war of aggression im sure doesn't exactly play too well at home
Maybe they'll bomb their own grocery stores too!
Why not just cut out the middle man and have putin bomb himself.
Get a Ukrainian truck within 10 miles and maybe one of their dumb bombs will miss and blow up his compound lol.
I don’t know… would they really bomb a place with shopping carts and fresh bread?
And escalator technology! The stairs move on their own!
Does such a place exist inside Russia?
I'd definitely recommend watching Anders analysis if you haven't taken a look. Seems like a risky but potentially fantastic move from Ukraine depending on what exactly their objectives are.
Will be watching closely, looks like it's going to be an interesting few days to see Russia scramble to get the egg off their face with this at the very least.
Is the aim to divert resources from the front lines in UA? Because that's what this smells like.
Seems like that's probably part of it. It could also be a response to the Russian offensives slowing down. Ukraine's strategy so far seems to have been to stay on the defensive, preserve troops and bleed the Russian forces as much as possible as they advance. If Russia stops advancing, this strategy no longer works. Now that Ukraine has taken a seemingly significant area inside Russia itself, it means Russia is forced to keep playing an offensive role to bring this territory back under Russian control and Ukraine can continue with their strategy.
I'm no military analyst and I'm mostly just paraphrasing what Anders said but it seems reasonable. They seem to be playing their cards pretty close to the chest right now though as to what their actual objective is.
They just captured a major gas substation that means less revenue for Mordor as well.
Break supply lines.
Probably both. Divert pressure off the front. Disrupt supply lines and infrastructure (roads, bridges and railroads). I've also heard mention that one axis of advance is towards a nuclear plant.
I've seen some keyboard warriors theorize that the Ukrainians intend to capture the plant as a bargaining chip in negotiations with Russian because Russia currently holds a Ukrainian nuclear power plant. My (wild ass) guess is that if they make it to the plant, they will just destroy its ability to generate power, then retreat.
Need to threaten Kursk to really push the supply lines.
Take my energy. ∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆
Fuck the blyats.
