Canada

There’s a fundamental misunderstanding of how different governments operate in different countries. China’s government operates from the top down (from Xi Jinping down to the national, province, and municipality level). Russia’s government operates through state-linked enterprises that are definitely not government-owned. America’s government operates from the bottom up (from PACs and lobbying groups up to the federal government). American state-sponsored electoral interference is an inherently different problem than Chinese or Russian interference because there are many American actors at play. These include those American PACs and SIGs and other lobbying groups looking to use their billions of dollars in funding to push their ideals around the world by directly and indirectly interfering with foreign elections.

At the end of the day, foreign interference is anything that leads to Canada pursuing activities not in its own best interest from anyone that isn’t Canadian (if we want to fuck ourselves up, we have that right) and funded with non-Canadian money. This has clearly happened from Chinese, Russian, AND American sources and it needs to stop if we want to protect our democracy.

Let’s not pretend that racist or xenophobic people don’t exist in Canada. Ignoring them would be a very dangerous thing to do, Canadians don’t need external influence to be racist.

Because that would mean acknowledging we’re very vulnerable to this type of thing and in Canada we like to pretend bad stuff just isn’t happening. It’s easier that way for our politicians to focus the ire of Canadians on bike lanes than to face this kind of stuff head on. Example: news is no longer talking about ~corporate price gouging~ inflation as if it suddenly isn’t happening anymore. We need something else to be outraged about! Argh!

Koch brothers already funds most center right think tanks in Canada. like Fraser Institute and institut économique de Montréal .

Because they're white people, and their backers are rich.

That's all you need to know. The far-right is allowed more latitude because, at least for now, they're useful idiots for the wealthy who can use their votes to further the agenda of tax cuts and deregulation. The problem is of the "riding the tiger" variety: at some point, the rabble will get out of control, and some of the wealthy will have their Fritz Thyssen moment.

Many of us do consider it foreign interference.

However the people who complain the loudest at the current government about foreign interference seems to have hitched their wagon to the same ideas as these particular foreign interfereers.

Americans have money, and there is plenty of money in taking part in the grift...

Even the US supreme court has become a mockery of its former self, and is reflective of their system as a whole. By the rich, for the rich.

TL;DR - you should. We collectively need to reassess how we tackle this kind of behaviour.

We have weird partitions for things. It’s sort of clear the division isn’t really state v. state or country v. country, it’s urban pockets versus rural spreads.

The political delta between Northern/Southern California, Eastern/Western Colorado+Washington, Upstate/Downstate New York, is FAR more significant than USA/Canada.

Alberta would slot in easily into the US Southeast. Ontario would slot in easily into the US Northeast/Northwest.

Part of the problem is that the Conservatives welcome it because they see it will help them in elections.

Yeah, k, but how would you even start to combat grassroots interference like that? At least with China there is an organization that you can monitor and counteract. A far as I can see, with this type of "interference" we're stuck chasing ghosts and battleing hydras.

Because we're their pet.

Yall are America lite, and have many of the same problems. You guys are going to have people forming similar opinions.

Yall are America lite, and have many of the same problems. You guys are going to have people forming similar opinions.