The Hobbit was supposed to be a children's story that took place in the large, darker fantasy world. So I'd more compare it to Tom Clancy writing a Spy Kids movie.
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Or... Robert Rodriguez doing a Spy Kids movie?
Hahahaha
I am down for both of these ideas!
You do know that's what happened, right? And that the kids in the movie had an uncle played by Danny Trejo named Machete who got his own spin-off films.
Not sure if you're aware, but Robert Rodriguez created Spy Kids (for his own kids) and has directed several of the movies.
Brings a whole new outlook to Rainbow 6.
From what I remember hearing. Tolkien went back and altered the future printings of the Hobbit to fit certain elements he didn't come up with until LOTR. If I'm not mistaken, even the ring itself was nothing more than a magic ring until he wrote LOTR
The main change was the chapter" riddles in the dark" - in the original printing Gollum willingly handed the ring over when Bilbo won the riddle contest. He did attempt other changes but these were rejected as they changed the tone of the book to much. He did make some later edits post Lord of the Rings due to the US copywrite expiring but these mostly changed minor lore details to bring it in line with the silmarillion.
As someone who's never read/watched the Hobbit & LOTR universes I frankly have no clue wtf this is supposed to mean
But godspeed to you, little rat
Also, go watch the Lord of the Rings movies! They're incredible.
seconded! but only the original trilogy. the rest are trash (maybe this only is true for those who love the books idk)
What do you mean by original trilogy? No extended versions?
sorry i was unclear. i mean the original 3 films that have Elijah Wood etc. i recommend the extended edition only because some of the cuts they made for the theater release removed some context that was kinda important to understand what all is going on, unless you already know the story. the Hobbit movies are all terrible in my opinion and i haven't bothered finishing them. but that's because they barely resemble the books at all and are full of characters and situations that shouldn't be in them. i recommend the book if you want to know what it's about, it's a much easier read than the trilogy.
I've heard the maple edit of the hobbit corrects many errors, but haven't had 4+ hours to spend on it yet.
I love the books and I still enjoyed Rings of Power. I might be the only person who did though. My wife won't even watch it after trying half an episode. But of course the original trilogy is a masterwork, possibly the best movies ever made.
Never read the books, the other ones are boring. Aint watched rings of power too busy settlin' grudges.
Throws red haired murder hobos at schizophrenic rats
Watching it wouldnt help you in this case since.. artistic choices in adapting it lol
Read The Hobbit. Watch LOTR. (Yes, one should read LOTR too, but we’re just trying to omit the ridiculous changes in the film adaptation of The Hobbit.)
The Tolkien Edit supercut of The Hobbit movies throws out everything that wasn't in the book. Mostly. The editor could only do so much.
I saw that. It was as good as they could do with what they were given. It wasn’t bad, but you could definitely tell there were missing parts.
At least please try to watch the movies. They and the books really are worth every bit of hype you’re heard.
The Hobbit was meant for kids. Then Tolkien was like, "what if I took that story that was meant for kids and wrote a really long, complicated series of sequels to it that kids of the right age to read The Hobbit will probably get bored with and stop reading half-way through the first book?"
Nothing against LOTR, I'm just doubtful most 10-year-olds read it.
LOTR was not written for children. It was literary fiction to talk about Tolkien's experiences with the Great war mixed with a lot of his philology studies. Some even say the LOTR world was just Tolkien's excuse to use his constructed languages. The Hobbit existed first as loose night time stories for his own kids that got formalized as a book and had no concept of the wider LOTR lore. The success inspired him to write another book, for a wider audience and more complex themes. Then he decided that the Hobbit could be made to fit into the overall world building of middle earth. So he made changes to both books so they fit together. That's why the first and second edition of The Hobbit are actually a bit different.
It’s literature, broadly speaking, and was never intended to be specifically for children. I think he wrote the Hobbit for children and LOTR for himself.
He had already created the playground, now he wanted to explore it.
So Redwall?
I've been chewing on the idea that Sauron is part of the fellowship lately and this seems like the opening I need to tackle the framing.
I think there's one perspective in which The Eye is an unrelentingly repressive aspect of authoritarianism and The Ring is both part of Sauron and a catalyst for the unnameable evil inherent within her.
Alternatively The Eye's power is identifying the thing that corrupts, and The Hobbit's power is carrying it. Singling anything out is an isolating task for Mean Girls, and in her work separating the Ring from everything else in the universe Sauron grows the thorniest, vilest crows she can to shield her loneliness. Still, when the Hobbits are at their lowest she reveals herself to hold their hands.
It seems that one approach to devils is pointing them out for somebody else to hurl into the fire and another is relegating them to the negative space by directing identity towards the Main Picture.
I thought it was obvious but now I'm not sure. Who did Stuart's nephew kill?