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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

If I had 2 cobras watching my back I too would grow as big as I wanted without giving a shit.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Wtf that looks sick

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The crazy thing about this is not just how evolution reverse-engineered what a snake looks like to a bird (or whatever preys on this moth), but also that some birds are born with an image burned into their brains labeled “avoid.” Snakes are such a problem to animals that may also prey on this moth, that a moth was able, over millions of years of evolution, to mimic that image through selective pressure. We’re not seeing here a moth mimicking a snake, we are seeing a moth’s wings resembling the image its prey holds in its brain of what it should identify as its own predator. An image that, itself, is held genetically and passed down from animal to animal, built by its own selective pressure. It’s amazing that this could produce such a clear image that’s immediately recognizable to us.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Or to boil it down:the ones who's wings looked more like snakes had more babies cuz they're weren't dead.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The ones whos wings looked like what their predators think a snake looks like survived more often.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not their predator and I think a snake looks like that too. I therefore think the image is pretty acurate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That means we see snakes similarly to the way their predators do.

From a different perspective, the bee mimic orchid only vaguely looks like a bee to us, but it still successfuly tricks bees, so image accuracy isn't the only factor. Both mimics can give us interesting insughts into how other animals see the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I'll add another example where it doesn't work on us people, just for the fun of it. Tigers are quite strikingly orange and one wonders how they can hide in the greenery without being immediatelly spotted by their prey. But their prey sees the orange colour differently, for them, tigers blend with their surroundings perfectly!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I mean don't we also sort of carry that same image (obviously not exactly, but sorta) in our genes?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

My dog will jump when I accidentally step on stick so that it suddenly moves, he has never seen a real snake. Non moving sticks that look like a snake? Doesnt react at all, I guess that routine was causing too many false positives and has not been propagated

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Evolution's fucking badass!

The process that made these images is very similar to the ones used by genAI in some ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking! They cannot really tell what they look like or what they should look like. But based on various pressures and weights, they slowly get pushed to look like a cobra, for example. Amazing!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Can someone explain the comment. What does "hot girl shit" even mean.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's one of Megan Thee Stallion's catch phrases that she says in a lot of her songs, and she also uses a lot of snake imagery. She has a song called Cobra.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

two cobras watching your back, undoubtedly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Two or three years ago it was just another snake cult, now... they're everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Moths are awesome, there's no "Alas" about them!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

I came for the alas, stayed for the atlas.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ngl it got me. It's confusing attack was highly effective.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The butterfly is called Attacus for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am down to respectfully admire any snake, but moths freak me tf out sorry

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your loss tbh, moths are fkn awesome

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I know, my brain is just very unhappy when it registers one :') I am getting better at it tho, only cried a little bit the last time a moth made it into my apartment

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

First step: Google it to make sure it's not generative AI.

Second step: allow oneself to be amazed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Alas! Moths.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

where is your god now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Looks AI generated, LOL.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Nature is fucking amazing