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[–] [email protected] 126 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hard times create Democratic presidents, Democratic presidents create good times, good times create Republican presidents, and Republican presidents create hard times.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just like how most of the national debt reductions have been during democratic administrations.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/jul/29/tweets/republican-presidents-democrats-contribute-deficit/

It’s almost like tax cuts for “job creators” don’t really create jobs. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump was on camera saying dems were better for the economy or some shit many years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm also just some guy but wasn't this debunked? Don't get me wrong, despise Trump, but like does anyone have a source of this video? Might be confusing this with one of the other things he maybe said on tape so full grain of salt y'all!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Cheers! I must be thinking of a different egregious offense of his.

Hard to keep up with the absolute pile of bullshit surrounding that weird guy..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

He had plenty of videos showing him as pretty rational before. I think old age got to him eventually though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty sure the reason I know about it is because someone posted it to the old site.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

He has been known to lie occasionally

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The article does call out that 1989 is a pretty arbitrary starting point, and extending that to 1945 creates a less lopsided (but still Democrat-favoring) picture.

I'd be interested in the comparison looking back to Nixon, as he was a stark departure from the republican party of Eisenhower. And of course he lead to Reagan, Bush 1&2, and Trump.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think it's a fine starting point if Republicans haven't been job creators for 35 years which is almost the entire millennial generation. What a bleak view, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I am 38, grew up in WI, spent the majority of my life in various Midwestern states, and for over a decade now have lived in Boston. I always say that, ignoring everything else (which is a lot), I have never seen a Republican governing body ever do anything but make life worse--be it state or federal. I have no experience of Republicans as anything but utterly incompetent failures at statescraft.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it gives you enough time to see the long term effects of neoliberalism selling off public assets kicking in, instead of the temporary cash influx.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

TBF Clinton also got a huge boost from the Internet taking off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Did it grow particularly more under Clinton than Bush?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Probably, it was the creation of an entirely new sector, and there was a fairly huge bubble that broke right 2000-1, that took years to recover from.

And bush royally fucked the economy with the IRAQ war then removing banking regulations that led to the 2008 collapse.

Don't get me wrong, I loved Clinton, I'm just pointing out things aren't always clear cut. There's many factors and not all of them are controllable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I just spent the last hour and a half looking at numbers for jobs in the tech sector from 1990-2010. It seems there is a LOT of disagreement on just how many tech jobs there have been, what percent of the total economy they are, what to even consider "tech" jobs, just how much the dotcom bust affected the total tech job market, as many think the losses were over stated, while other aspects of the tech industry in general were growing faster than ever. Just a lot. Basically, doesn't seem like anyone actually knows, a lot of places say it is def this, or that, but there is a lot of conflicting information. A lot of places point out that a bunch of stats are unproven, both for the positive, and the negative.

Damn. Apparently the answer is 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

Gross, this guy loves another one of Epstein's pet presidents.