850 grams is crazy and barely usable imo, the steam deck already feels heavy at 670 and puts too much strain on the wrists due to the controller layout + weight.
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All the bells and whistle dont matter if it isnt usable. Cant wait for more reviews.
That’s 20% heavier. My hands already fall asleep after longer gaming sessions with the Steam Deck.
I felt envy with the screen I was seeing here, but if I can’t even hold the damn thing then what’s the point.
Yeah same here, i barely play with the steam deck anymore and im back on playing on the pc or the switch with the spit pad pro, not worth having something portable weight almost 1kg lol. I have been looking into the rog ally but its just like 60grams less than the deck.
Thats a big chungus
It looks so THICK
As someone who bought and returned an rog ally I have to say windows is complete shit on handheld like this. Either lenovo’s software has to be top tier for this to work (doubtful) or microsoft has to release handheld version of windows (doubtful in the near future).
Or install Linux
What made it so bad?
Well even if the software is functional, the underlying OS doesn't support it in ways that are important. Like suspend and resuming games. Then when Windows can have a random update, the extra software may break or run into serious problems until the devs can get an update up for it as fast as they can on reaction. Nvidia STILL commonly runs into these problems with just Gpu updates. Things always break and they gotta have multiple versions of stability going and staying on top of updates for the latest games.
In other words, nobody has a problem with Windows until Windows suddenly spawns one for them to have for seemingly no reason and at the worst times. The more Beta the software is, the more commonly this happens.
I do gotta say those controllers may finally be a replacement for Joycon on PC. They look great!
I like the detachable controllers that also have some gyro functionality. Wish it were lighter though
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They're jumping into a very crowded space, one where Valve is the first-to-market. That said, Valve is good at proving a hardware market viable and then flubbing at actually dominating it (VR, PC set-top boxes) so I could see somebody like Lenovo winning at this.
I'm kind of surprised they went for the Switch/Tablet form-factor for this instead of targeting the phone scale, but Lenovorola already cratered at trying to do this as a phone once before (Moto Z with the gamepad mod).
Valve don't care about being the market leader in hardware though, they're just happy to create a new market for people to play Steam games on!
Aha,they are basically doing it for charity!
Sure, let's go with that
I’m kind of surprised they went for the Switch/Tablet form-factor for this instead of targeting the phone scale
It seems like every one of these new handhelds is trying to have the best specs in the market no matter what. The ROG Ally was sold as a more powerful steam deck, and now the Legion Go comes in with a better screen and battery. It does seem really big, though.
The Logitech G-Cloud is similarly top-specced and pricy, although iirc it's supposedly more lightweight and comfortable than its counterparts. It's getting very crowded in that space, I don't envy any of these companies that jumped onto this band wagon and found everybody else doing the same thing at the same time.
I've tried using gamer-clips on my phone and the top-heavy weight distribution makes them uncomfortable despite the lower-mass of phone+controller, so I can see how that would be a design challenge. I still wish Lenovorola had stuck to it harder with the Moto-mods, but I suppose the death of the Atom processor line and Windows Phone means that any such device would have to be Android, and gamers want x86-64 PC-compatible devices, and that's probably not doable in a phone form-factor.
I'm eyeing the GPD Win Mini right now. It's not out yet and I'm waiting for reviews but it looks like a comfy small handheld with great specs. Not quite a phone form factor but it's close enough. May be close to what you're looking for.
looks.
Ooh, that's neat! My only complaint looking at it is that they didn't figure out some place to put a right-side thumbpad for a better mouse-mode. Joystick mouse emulation is a miserable solution, and the central thumbpad is too far for gaming (ask anybody who played Mario 64 or Metroid Hunters on the DS). My dream machine would be to use the old Blackberry trick of making the right-side of the keyboard able to masquerade as a touchpad (you literally run your thumb along the keyboard and it's a pointing device), add a face-toggle-button to switch between mouse-mode and keyboard mode, and then add a scrollwheel shoulder-button.
Valve wasn't first to market by a long shot. Valve was the first to offer a great price and a great operating system. But the general category of devices existed long before the Deck. They just were fucking expensive.
I like the detachable controllers that also have some gyro functionality. Wish it were lighter though
Is this for people that want a handheld instead of a PC or console or is this for a PC enthusiast to play on the go?
Yes.