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[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Other portable console makers: proprietary shit, locked down OSes, DRM embedded in the device at boot, custom/strange architectural choices, walled gardens

Valve: eh, put a fuckin' normal ass gaming PC in a tiny box with joysticks and call it a day.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is just a huge injustice to what the Steam Deck is.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, it's great. It means you can make it do anything. You misconstrue my meaning.

You don't even have it game on it if you don't want to. Use it as a server 😂

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not misconstruing anything, you're just making it sound like it was a trivial creation when it's anything but.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

They’re focused entirely on the shitty practices those other manufacturers engaged in. In that regard, Valve didn’t do much (and that’s a good thing).

[–] possiblylinux127 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Yeah but with Steam Deck you're not forced to use it. It's an unlocked x86-64 compatible handheld PC. Install whatever you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

It is. And the only reason they are investing in the Linux space is the windows store, which was a threat to the existence of the steam store. So they started doing their own: they dabbled with Linux and eventually started proton. And thanks to vulkan, wine and many other projects they created something very cool.

They aren't our friends, but they are currently going in a favorable direction. Let's just hope they don't normalize something shitty like DRM again.

[–] possiblylinux127 11 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Steam is a proprietary app store shipping DRM and proprietary software. I can't say I'm eager to use it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If we are being fair, they are still reasonably fair to users. Open source gaming is not a reality.

They don't force you to use Steam, but still work on Proton as Open Source. They don't lock down their hardware.

What I'm trying to say is, while Valve is not perfect, it's much better than any big tech alternative.

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 5 days ago

I prefer gog since I don't play newer games

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

devs can ship games on steam without drm, it's not valve that mandates it. ksp doesn't have drm for example

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The list of closed source games that also make the effort to make a Linux install is slim. I'm happy to have valve putting in the effort to make me enticed to use their store to legally buy games that are not open source and even to a degree support it under Linux.

[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 4 days ago

Honestly it is better to just run them in a compatibility layer. If they work fine in proton I don't see the need for proton

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127 1 points 5 days ago

But not steam itself

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Yes. But that's still better than most other big gaming companies.

We should take from Valve what we can before they start invading the OS. Also, it's DRM, so we either start to get our own game storage/acquiring mechanism or we just accept we can lose access to our games at any time of Valve's choosing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] AI_toothbrush 1 points 5 days ago

What is the original video?