billionaires and their super important opinions eh? having money is a personality trait apparently
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And who will decide what is good and bad behaviour? Hmm? And what advantage will society as a whole get from this?
"citizens on their best behavior" "big brother is always watching"
Don't sound very different to me
billionaires who talk like this should immediately be committed. he's clearly far gone, just fucking take him away.
“People behave themselves in a panopticon”-rich people
Firstly no, people don’t. Second, they go crazy in one. And third, this basically breaks down the threads of both community and individualism to create a miserable nightmare
Breaking community and individualism is kinda a big thing billionaires want because that way people can't organise to rise up against them.
Maybe billionaires should be filmed and streamed continuously, since their behavior has such a big impact on the world. If they don't like it maybe we shouldn't allow them to control such incredible assets. I'm sure billionaires have nothing sketchy to hide, right? What we will see is probably how they are hard working people who are not at all detached from normal folks. Right?
1984
Ever notice that Larry Ellison looks like Satan?
I thought satan looks like that
If that’s the devil maybe I should be glad being gay is getting me sent into her arms
Larry, AI didn't stop you from stealing an island from the people of Hawaii
Is this what Ted Kaczyinski (the Unabomber) warned against?
That and global warming
By "citizens" he means poor people, naturally, and by "best behaviour" he means obedience to authority.
And by authority he means himself.
in bad country the ruling class uses AI scoring system to ensure the compliance of the workers
So glad we live in good country where the ruling class are benevolent and would never do that to us.
I'm missing emoji reactions (not replies), jeje
Wait, isn't this the father of Megan Ellison, the owner of Annapurna Interactive? The woman who just made her entire team so mad they quit.
"[Stupid rich person shit]"
--Larry Ellison, soon to be major shareholder of Paramount
And I guarantee that billionaire Larry Ellison blithely believes that he'll be exempt - that all of this surveillance will just be used against the little people. And he's almost certainly right.
He will be exempt. The areas that he lives in and the things that he does will not be tagged as "criminal" on the data system that he has the contract to administer.
That's always how these systems work. You don't worry about getting dragged into the Saudi Consulate and bonesawed to death by intelligence officers when you're MBS, because you're the boss and the guy getting bonesawed is your employee.
For the same reason, you don't worry about getting spied on when you're the one who owns and operates the big surveillance infrastructure because it exists for your benefit.
"We're going to have supervision," Ellison said. "Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there's a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on."
And if we entertained the idea that this was true and the core focus of this idea (it's not) what do we think the chances are that the "appropriate person" will be one of two things:
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Another cop
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A subscription service digital surveillance company with that cop as a client that they report back to for "internal investigation", as long as the bill is paid.
Even if his vision for the future worked perfectly (which it won't) and wasn't abused (which it will be, rampantly and immediately), it's still a complete dystopian nightmare lol
Like the police unions will ever permit the policing of the police 🤣🤣🤣
We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. - Ursula K Le Guin
The first XKCD that comes to mind
Ellision sounds like the kind of guy that wants an unstoppable army of robot swarms.
Representative Jamie Raskin recently brought up the term neo-monarchy.
Owner of Cloud company that sells AI services tells governments that AI-powered surveillance is good.
He looks like if Tim Allen upped his coke intake
Fuck you Larry.
Emboldened oligarch in a plutocracy.
But also kleptocracy and really a kakistocracy disguised outwardly as an aristocracy or neo-monarchy as Raskin said.
Outside of just saying "America" or "Capitalism" How do we combine all of this into one satisfying, effective term?
I think that word is tyranny, if we’re sticking with Greek.
He’s voicing what every billionaire and government official already thinks. Call me pessimist but I believe it’s unavoidable. VPNs are seen as “tools to overcome government bans to access illegal websites” in so many countries, hence getting banned. Access to mainstream websites also getting harder and harder when on VPN. People hosting Tor exit nodes are living in fear of police raids.
Even with some little amount of privacy protecting measures, websites start to act strangely or do not work, and the amount of websites like this increases every day. As protecting our privacy becomes a bigger and bigger effort, more people will give up, strengthening the arguments against it. Eventually we’ll hit big brother levels.
Eventually we’ll hit big brother levels.
As someone who was born before the age of surveillance capitalism, I can tell you we've hit that level a long time ago. Anybody who thinks society has been running normally for at least the past 15 years is too young to have known what a normal society is.
Only the fact that he is able to say shit like that out loud is a sign of a rotting society. People are ok with being their slaves
So the Panopticon. The hypothetical prison that even people in the 1800s thought would be a human rights violation to build because it was such an extreme form of psychological torture.
When envisioning the rising of such surveillance system turning our prison into a planet, I had always hoped that the "hackers" in the world would protect us from such.
"Will it blend?" - in today's episode, Larry Ellison, massive waste of skin and resources.
My best behavior is to be on Larry Ellison's front yard with pitchforks burning torches and guillotines.
“Citizens” 🙄 Not every person is a citizen; I’ve got a pet peeve about this.
I have been hating this man's guts since the mid 90's and somehow it never lets off. Most hateful people manage to become a little bit more likeable as they age. Even this disgusting piece of human refuse Bill Gates might pass for a somewhat okay human being if you wilfully overlook why he truly does philanthropy.
But Larry Ellison? Hell no. He never changes. he's just consistently the worst year after year, decade after decade.
Private jets . They’ve all got multiple front yards & none of us can afford pitchforks But small aeroplanes, those are weak. & these parasites just looove em
sounds like a nazi