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Snap bad (midwest.social)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 3 months ago (21 children)

I think most snap haters mostly hate, that Canonical forces snap upon them, an wouldn't hate so much about it if they had the choice.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago

Yeah, who'd hate using a package manager that increasingly slows down your boot time with every package installed, or that uses a closed source store to provide you FOSS

Maybe there's a reason canonical has to force it on their users

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I also hate that it creates a loopback device for every installed snap

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago

There's a lot I dislike about snap. This is the thing I hate.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle 9 points 3 months ago

Thanks to snap I switched to arch. It gave a linux beginner so much drive to learn the terminal and install a harder os lol. The firefox snap was the worst shit.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I never used snap, always use official repo > multilib > extra > chaotic aur > aur > flatpak > FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

FUCK IT, I BUILD FROM SOURCE CODE FROM SHADY GITHUB REPO_*

I feel seen.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

curl shit | sudo bash is just so convenient.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I hope you mean https://shit.

[–] possiblylinux127 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

curl http://mysite.net | sudo bash

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

The safest install method \s

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thread made by canonical employee

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Now also throw GNU Guix, Homebrew and some AppImages in there

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (7 children)

It's a shame that snaps are forced to use Canonicals closed source backend because they are really good, and a fully snap system is a very compelling idea for immutable systems

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

People using Linux should take their heads out of their asses sometimes and just let people enjoy things they way they prefer.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fuckin preach it friend!

That's the joy of Linux, the "have it your way" approach to an OS

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (25 children)

yeah well, you can't have it your way on Ubuntu when Canonical FORCES you to use snaps (heck they even hacked apt to prefer snaps instead of debs)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Heck yeah! There's so much gatekeeping and tribalism that it kinda sucks out the joy a little bit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Snap is bad. I only say this as someone who did a lot of OS security work for Linux and Unix, so take that with a grain of salt.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Would you mind explaining why? I'm genuinely curious

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I use nix like the AUR for debian.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have NODE installed using snap lmao. Why? Installing it the normal way just gives me tons of errors that I'm too bored to deal with. I'm sure there's a fix, but I'm too lazy to debug all that. Of course, I don't use snap node for hosting servers and stuff. I just use it for react native. Regardless, it works n I'm happy lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I don't mind snap at all for cases where a better package doesn't exist.

What made me give up Ubuntu was how it railroaded me into snap versions of packages that work better, for me, as native .deb installs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh definitely. Canonical forcing us to use snap Firefox was very shitty. I mean I still use Ubuntu because I'm lazy, but I did change the snap Firefox thing to the apt libraries or whatever.