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I don't mean to be pessimistic, bit since most subreddits are only going dark for a couple days, the site will basically be back to normal soon. I wonder how many users here are only here because of temporary outrage and not because they actually prefer Lemmy. I'm curious about people's outlook on this situation.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m optimistic, I signed up for lemmy.ml and it wasn’t available today due to so much traffic I guess… I found lemmy.world and another instance in a few seconds and have been trucking a long. This is coming from me who is not tech savvy inthe slightest. Lemmy is easy for me, and I struggle with learning curves. I deleted my Reddit accounts after a decade of using it, and I’m here for the ride. I use this on iPad, and the install webpage as app functions perfectly. It’s pretty darn beautiful actually

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need to educate users and Reddit people to really understand how Lemmy works, and why it's good. People keep giving the email analogy but that may not be enough. I still see a lot of users asking if they need to have an account on every Lemmy instance. We need to explain simply that :

  • You can sub a community that is not local ;
  • There can be two community that are called the same but on different instance (ie: [email protected] and [email protected]) ;
  • Same is for your username. We should also give tips on how to find an instance that is relevant for you and how to find communities.
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm probably going to be on both.

It was pretty surprising how easy it was to create an account and a not-to-bad feed. All of the communities I like don't yet exist on lemmy, but there's nothing preventing them from starting up, and the structure is very good.

Reddit has already created a permanent scar in it's user base. This event has seeded a minority of users on lemmy/kbin/whatever. And there will be more again on July 1 when the various 3rd party apps stop working.

Even if reddit just stops there and doesn't do anymore detrimental things to it's user base that scar is permanent. There's enough users on here now to be self-sustaining for a few small communities at least. And anytime in the future that reddit pulls some shit - which given their corporate structure, it looks like they will - more users are going to look for alternatives and many will end up here.

For someone like me - that'll just mean more time here and less time on reddit, until eventually it'll be only on here - just like Digg, just like Fark, just like all the other ones.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I hope we can create a community that they want to be a part of. It takes a lot more than just lurking like I did at reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Every day, I open jerboa and see like 5x more communities with a lot of activity. If we can keep up this level of growth for another week or so, then i don't think I'll miss Reddit much. Especially if i really have to download the official app. On the other hand, if Reddit backs down at the last minute and agrees to allow third party apps, then i could see lemmy users going back to Reddit out of habit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I prefer to be bored on lemmy than annoyed with agressive pop ups, repetitive and irellevant ads and silenced whenever i express opinion that goes against the prevailing group think. If you prefer being herded into corrals on that other site, feel free to leave.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm never going back (Besides to delete my account).

Lemmy reminds me of when I first joined Reddit. There isn't a constantly changing frontpage (yet). The communities are smaller, but thats a good thing. I actually want to participate.

I've drunk the koolaid. I'm considering starting an instance for my personal professional community that I lost since the pandemic.

Mastodon didnt click for me, but neither did twitter even in its hey-day. Just not my cup of tea. But Lemmy does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?

Most.

90% of the engagement I've seen regarding Lemmy is "Why isn't this Reddit and work exactly the same as Reddit? When WILL it work exactly the same as Reddit?"

I'm already seeing hostility a la "Well I guess we'll see if the devs LiStEn To ThIeR uSeRs" in regards to communities getting tied to a central authority, aka the thing this was explicitly designed to not do. I've been offloading my data and such to self hosted options for a few years now where I can anyway, so I'm down to stay, but I DO look forward to the end of the protest and the Reddit stans going home like nothing happened like they were always going to. > How many users here do you think are going to get bored and end up back on Reddit as soon as the blackout ends?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I intend to return after the blackout. At least for the rest of June. It is said multiple times, that this is just the first step for many subreddits.

I will continue using Lemmy and use Reddit only for specific communities. If there is no chance in sight on Reddits behalf, the communities can work on travelling to alternatives properly and this needs time and planing.

As of now, this exodus is more like a panicked escape. At least one community I am from means business and I would like to support them as much as possible.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For me personally, I'm just here for the ride and I'm curious how things go. On reddit I am only apart of smallish communities and sort by new, so this kinda works even if it's not a bunch of niche subs with stuff I'm into. On reddit I kinda comment and move on, and maybe here I can break the habit of completely ignoring my inbox πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

73% ...less if we all do our part in submitting lots of quality content

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I started getting into Lemmy with the reddit API announcement like many others. if the RIF app shuts down I'm never going back, and even if it manages to stick around I probably will be done with reddit. I've committed to Lemmy at this point, I'm trying to build a pathfinder RPG community here, and I've been contributing to many other communities where I can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I used RiF exclusively for reddit, I tried to see how the app was but no, just absolute garbage for me.

It's ok though, I've been in between places before I want to give this places a try although I'm still confused as to how they are connected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I like Lemmy much more than reddit and found it harder to use before due to the lack of people. Now that there are more people it's even more fun and I'm hoping others feel similarly :) I don't see a reason to go back to reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd wager most will go back. But Lemmy might retain a pretty substantial amount of its new users. I for one want to stay here, but we'll see how many content-creating users return to Reddit after the blackout.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think at least 1% will stay, but due to how massive Reddit is, that will be enough to survive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mostly everyone who will try kbin/lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. Unreal how bad the UI/UX is considering the time they've had to copy Reddit.

Lemmy

  • Posts are randomly added realtime when scrolling the main page making it unbearable
  • Subscribed/trending community list is a weird unaligned logo+text instead of a normal scrollable list

Kbin

  • How the fuck do you navigate to your subscribed "magazines"? The magazines tab just shows you list of everything and going under your subscriptions shows posts from every magazine I am subscribed to instead of letting me click on the specific magazine

"Fediverse"

  • Content propagation from other instances is slow(?) I want to subscribe to [email protected] but beehaw still can't find it - maybe I don't understand it well enough and it's just a temporary issue
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I'll definitely return. I find myself opening Boost by habit way too much lol. Lemmy and Jerboa are also a bit janky and I find the default pages and algorithm weird. That said it seems like as a result, or maybe just because of the low amount of content, posts stay active for longer, whereas most 1 day old posts on Reddit are basically dead.

I used to use the official app for a long time before switching to Boost, which is more usable and customisable, and also ad-free after paying a one-time fee. Just after I switched the official app made some unpopular changes so I didn't look back, but I recently checked it and it seems that there are a few new features introduced that I find useful, including being able to download videos easily which will be an essential feature if bots will stop working in the future. Playing videos are still janky though. If I'm forced to go back I'll definitely use revanced to strip the ads.

As I understand it the changes will be even more painful for the mods though, even if Reddit promised to not touch bots that help mods.

That said I've created a Lemmy account and downloaded Jerboa so I'll probably still use Lemmy occasionally just to see what's here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe they come, check it out, decide it's not for them right now, but come back to it the next time reddit fucks up. It'll all be fine. There's plenty of content to be had here even if it will take a while for the super niche communities to really blossom. I don't plan to go back to reddit for casual browsing ever except to check in on some subreddits that haven't made the jump yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would really help the adoption of Lemmy if we get a 'multisub'-idea, that Reddit uses, where a user could bind multiple instances' communities together, and make it appear as one community.

(So I can bind all similar instances into one).

Regardless, I won't be going back to Reddit. If I stick around Lemmy, that's kind of up to how I enjoy this platform & usability, but I can be quite stubborn with my 'morals'. Once a platform is done for me, it is done lmao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't what you're talking about just subscribing to the different instances communities?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's really better in here. People are more friendly, there's a general feeling of being part of something. Problem is, there is a MASSIVE disparity in terms of content. Reddit has been around for a long time, and has a shit ton of users constantly posting. I really want to stay here, but I think it's gonna be a rough experience for a few months at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me I plan on replacing it entirely and staying. Do I think this place is going to ultimately usurp reddit no. Do I think that lemmy will be able to provide for me everything I used to get on reddit maybe but certainly not immediately. But it's nice to be in a smaller setting it's nice to have less drama and I honestly just prefer fed style now that I understand it. Getting rid of suits in charge and ads in our faces is more than enough to keep me here even if there's not as much content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same for me. I do still have the RIF app installed but as soon as I can't use it... Well it's gone for me. I like Lemmy more this far. For me the small space communities was what I was there for though. Some of the more niche stuff might not come over but I have discords for most of those anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And it will remain that way if early adopters don’t stay and post content

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

nahhh. at least not entirely. i'm focusing on feeling more at home here, it'd feel wrong to go back. over the last months the cracks have started to show in reddit to such a degree, i was trying to escape but couldn't quite get committed enough, so this is perfect

i'm sure people will dabble in specific subs but still mainly use lemmy as best as they can

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