Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
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Saw an unexpected Animatrix reference on Twitter today - and from an unrepentant promptfondler, no less:
This ended up starting a lengthy argument with an "AI researcher" (read: promptfondler with delusions of intelligence), which you can read if you wanna torture yourself.
yes. that's all true, but academics and artists and leftists are actually calling for Buttlerian jihad all the time. when push comes to shove they will ally with fascists on AI
This guy severely underestimates my capacity for being against multiple things at the same time.
True believers at Vox' Future Perfect "vertical" let out a hearfelt REEEEEE as Saltman makes the obvious move to secure all the profits
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/374275/openai-just-sold-you-out
shocked that scorpions in a scorpion's nest funded by their scorpion mates might have fallen into stinging
HN seems to be particularly deranged today, doesn't it?
It mostly seems to be a mopey debate over whether Saltman's impending apotheosis is good or bad.
I think they've been pretty sane AI-wise, lately.
you sure about that?
The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply cannot keep up with the competition. You're out. And the growing consensus is "why shouldn't you?", there is no escape from that.
This is someone who literally can't tell good writing from bad, so he assumes everyone is using AI
He's so close to being depressed enough to maybe ask a vital and important question about meaning and his own relationships with technology. But probably he'll just buy more AI.
Watching AI guys slowly come around feels similar to how people have to care for their alcoholic relatives. Folks have to come to the point where they recognize where the unacceptable bullshit lies on their own, then you can show them the cold hard facts and a path back to the real world, but getting there is absolutely exhausting and often heartbreaking.
Inventor sez "I locked myself in my apartment for 4 years to build this humanoid". Surprisingly, not a sexbot!
not a sexbot!
Skill issue.
You know that's for Gen 2.0
This tech curve is about to go exponential, if you know what I'm sayin'
--venture capitalists, probably
all hail the hockey stick may we forever outspend all competition and reap the rewards of a ravaged market we solely control
ya know that inane SITUATIONAL AWARENESS paper that the ex-OpenAI guy posted, which is basically a window into what the most fully committed OpenAI doom cultists actually believe?
yeah, Ivanka Trump just tweeted it
But right now, there are perhaps a few hundred people, most of them in San Francisco and the AI labs, that have situational awareness. Through whatever peculiar forces of fate, I have found myself amongst them.
oh boy
barron: shows ivanka the minecraft speedrun
ivanka: I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT, BROTHER
edit: accidentally read ivanka as melania, now corrected
Personally, I was radicalized by 'watch for rolling rocks' in .5 A presses
parallel universes were the inspiration behind urbit, it all makes sense
Was salivating all weekend waiting for this to drop, from Subbarao Kambhampati's group:
Ladies and gentlemen, we have achieved block stacking abilities. It is a straight shot from here to cold fusion! ... unfortunately, there is a minor caveat:
Looks like performance drops like a rock as number of steps required increases...
correct me if I’m reading this wrong — the results are that LLMs are much, much worse than classical AI at planning block placement for SHRDLU? that seems pretty damning
Yes, the classical algo achieves perfect accuracy and is way faster. There is also a table that shows the cost of running o1 is enormous. Like comically bad. Boil a small ocean bad. We'll just 10x the size and it will achieve 15 steps inshallah.
Imo, this is like the same behavior we see on math problems. More steps it takes, the higher the chance it just decoheres completely. I can't see any reason why this type of thing would just "click" for the models if they are also unable to do multiplication.
I mean this just reeks of pure hopium from OAI and co that things will magykly work out. (But the newer model is clearly better^{tm}! I still don't see any indication that one day that chart is just going to be 100s across the board.)
Large Reasoning Models
May the coiners of this jargon step on Lego until the end of days