honestly I think the complaint about there being no way for other app stores to become "authorized sources" is valid
this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2024
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I hate it, my shitty xiaomi gives me a 10 second cooldown before letting me install one π€
Unrelated but, amazing pfp mate.
Tux do the speen haha, he so silly
It's cool the first couple times but I wish there was a lemmy setting to disable it
Ay thx π
When did this become a thing? I sideload apps all the time with no issues.
Afaik new feature in android 15
Edit: Nvm, just read the article, apparently a feature in latest OneUI. So unless you use Samsung you wouldn't know it. That aside, with android 15 you will get some sort of "feature" which discourages sideloading.
Well my Z Fold 3 stopped updating after Android 14, so I guess I need to make this phone last as long as humanly possible cause this is bullshit.
Lol same thought. I just got a new phone which came with Android 14 and I'm not updating this device.
So if I'm reading this correctly, this is only a change in One UI, which Samsung makes, and only affects their devices... So why is Google being sued other than for headlines?
Also, it's still not blocked, just additional warnings educating users about security, or lack thereof with side loading.
Not really on Epic's side here honestly.
You're talking about the same Epic that intentionally broke TOS, threw a tantrum when it was correctly kicked off the store, responded with a prepared 80-page lawsuit a day later, lost on all but one count, and is now strutting around pretending it was all for the players while taking their money by the fistful.
Apples TOS is complete bullshit and I support anyone that breaks it.
Wow, what a freedom fighter.
Apple's (and Google&Co's) walled garden policies are absolute bullshit and should be outlawed, but in this, Epic is in the wrong. They agreed to a contract, they didn't like it, so they chose to break it. Besides, saying that you "support something" does fuck all. Go and do something. Call a politician and get the law changed, you rebel.
To be fair, calling a politician will do fuck all to change a law, unless you have a giant bag of money, which Google and apple have.
Besides, saying that you "support something" does fuck all.
So what? Am I not allowed to express my opinion because of that?
Also, my politicians have already started to outlaw these practices. There is obviously still much work to be done but it's happening.
They agreed to a contract, they didn't like it, so they chose to break it.
What was the contract?
The relevant part in simple terms: if an app is distributed on the App Store, all in-app purchases must be made through the App Store (so Apple can have their 30%), the app can't bypass this, and the app can't contain links/buttons/calls to action to have the user bypass it. Epic implemented their own independent in-app purchase solution that violated this, and they got kicked out.
Whether or not the 30% cut is fair is not relevant to the topic. I think it's a baseless amount, and Apple's walled garden is clearly anti-competitive and anti-consumer. The point is that Epic's violation of the TOS was a premeditated action in order to inject their fake "for the players" narrative into their litigations and rally the Fortnite-addicted kids who didn't know better. They had an 80-page lawsuit and a pissing CGI short film ready on the day. Apple wants all of the money, Epic wants all of the money, and they're not above using every dirty trick they know.
Obligatory IANAL, and this is old info, TOS may have changed. Hoeg Law on Youtube specializes in video games, it probably has a more in-depth and up-to-date analysis of the situation.
Specifically because Apple is engaging in anti competitive and anti consumer practices (your words) I have a very difficult time seeing this action as "dirty." Companies will do what companies do and pursue money, but if their pursuit of money coincidentally happens to fight for consumer rights then I don't think we should say it's dirty.
Sort of like "if you don't have your own, store bought is fine" lol
They didn't have to play. That's the point. They didn't have to agree to the contract. But since they did agree (and then intentionally broke the contract), they're wrong too. They can't be absolved of their part in this because the other party also did wrong. This is a two wrongs don't make a right situation.
I'm not saying they shouldn't face consequences, I'm saying we shouldn't view it as a dirty trick.
This I actually agree with except that they tried to use their users as a cudgel against the company they tried to defraud.
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They broke TOS in order to serve the letter. You canβt sue for something that doesnβt affect you. Saying they threw a tantrum is disgraceful
And they should have won the Apple suit but Apple was deemed to not have a large enough market share to have a monopolyβ¦even if they have a monopoly on Apple products
It was terrible news for consumers
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How about all app stores (including Play Store and Samung own app store) not installed as system apps and show warnings equally when user install something new?
Imagine a case similar to what we had about the default web browser on Windows.
Stop, I've got insomnia and don't wanna get too excited π€€
you can get this on something like graphene os. You can choose to install google play, or not to. and use any other app store like android and they all have the same permissions.
Ain't google play assumes it always installed as system app and graphene os team had to build a sandbox around it?
Google play just has way too many permissions to the sandbox keeps it contained
Instead of sandboxing I would much rather it drops all those permissions
Samsung user.
Spotted the inclusion of Auto Blocker in the last system update.
The App can be disabled, or as I did, adb uninstalled.
Was curious of what the step is and found this video for Samsung https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6TMvBQ7Sm0
And for Google Pixel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9nsSmDG_8
Doesn't seem too different from the old enable unknown apps aside from Samsung requiring an additional step. Unless third party apps get completely blocked having to enable it doesn't seem like a bad thing with how clueless lot of people are about apks and risks associated with them if they didn't get it from a safe source.
Epic Games
...it rings a bell, but I'm too busy worrying about people who aren't corpo shitheads trying to convince the market they can offer something different
Epic are the ones with the resources to sue, but a favorable decision would almost certainly also apply to third party repos such as https://f-droid.org/
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