Can we have a side internet, for us normal people?
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That exists it's called tildeverse and gemini
What's the pros and cons of those?
Both go back to 90s tech so you lose a lot of functionality. Gemini is mainly text based with links to files. So think pre web text pages at University's but it's cool to read people's pages without all the distractions of images and video. I have read some cool stories on there. Got an awesome cookie recipe as well from a person in Denmark.
Unfortunately, if everybody goes there the bots will follow.
Have you got a more specific search term for Gemini? Unfortunately the word has been taken by Google
No.
/sadface
So they want to automate the use of troll-farms?
Dude I can't even pass a catchpa these day. I still don't know if a e-bike is a scooter, a bike, or a moped.
Captcha and I can never agree on what is and isn’t a bus.
Click on all busses:
This would work for a short while as long as the user knows their hardware.
They keep showing me strange street features from distant countries and ask me shit like "mark all the crosswalks". And i look at it and think "no idea, what this is, no crosswalk i have ever seen looked like this, so i guess it it is something different".
And then i have to do the next captcha. Sometimes i am caught in captcha hell, where i have to solve captchas until i give up and close the browser.
There is a short story in here about someone who can't pass a captcha, loses their identity, and has to move on to becoming a fisherman in Norway.
Fisherman in Norway is probably an upgrade for some people lol
Weird how they're doing the thing they accuse others of doing. Almost like it's a confession.
Projection is a major problem
The US always tries to do what they think others are doing. Half of their crazy ideas are because they heard a rumor and/or assumed the Soviets were doing it. Mind control, truth serums, ESP, cat spies.
Bro I’ve about a dozen I can sell you right now
Jesus, even before I read the article it read like the U.S wants to emulate disinformation campaigns others are using. The irony of three letter agencies condemning AI campaigns while the Pentagon is going "We want that", is insane but its to be expected I guess.
…Do you think the US government has never done disinformation campaigns before?
no, but they pretend otherwise, so them publicly salivating for it is a new level of embarrassing.
I assume this is the same reason why they want to ban TikTok but not Facebook - it's not so much that they object to the data harvesting, they just object to non-American data harvesting that they can't readily influence.
I don't think that's what they want to use it for. Disinformation is super easy. What they want to do is use bots to gather Intel on citizens.
Por que no los dos? They'd definitely use this capability to do both.
The listing notes that special operations troops “will use this capability to gather information from public online forums,” with no further explanation of how these artificial internet users will be used.
Any chance that's the real reason and not just a flimsy excuse? What kind of information would you even need a fake identity to gather from a public forum?
As if any institution, org or group that has an agenda to push doesn't have battalions of bots guiding the discussion of forums to whichever way they want and not just fake followers and likes. As if people would need permission or would ask for it even if they had to. You just cant have any real sense of the public opinion on the internet, if there ever was such a time.
So they can save money by firing their army of nafo meat puppets?
I mean they did had IRL meeting probably because even they didn't believed they are real people lol.
Dead internet incoming...
I don't get it. They're not already?
it's the pentagon itself, not the CIA or state department. 100% the CIA and state department has been doing it for a long time already
LinkedIn?
Telling on themselves a bit given the implication is that they're so far behind every other country who're definitely already doing the same
definitely
Definitely, given the overwhelming mountain of evidence you’re sitting on 👍 Meanwhile, the US isn’t the largest intelligence/security state in the world by leaps and bounds. It’s just a little-bitty backward country whose military-industrial complex invented the internet.
More likely, they’ve been doing this for many years and it is basically obsolete, so they are spilling the beans now.
Or not and we really are doomed.
My first thought was if they're asking for this officially, they've piloted some version of it unofficially.
Any government does anything shady Oh! I i would not have thought that any government is using my patriotism for their malicious things!
So we really are going for a dead internet. Nobody is going to want to interact with bots all day online. But maybe that's the point, harder to organize organically on the streets without a presence online.
Can I still be the one person who makes all the posts on 4chan, prove me wrong?