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While Ms. Stein condemns both “zombie political parties” as tools of Wall Street and war profiteers, her campaign has focused largely on hammering Ms. Harris, blaming the White House she serves for relentless violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

And Democrats, as never before, are focused on Ms. Stein.

The party has prepared a negative ad blitz for the election’s final weeks, its first-such effort ever directed at a third-party candidate. Fearful that Ms. Stein might divert critical votes in places like Michigan, Democrats are also pressing their case on billboards plastered recently across swing states:

“Jill Stein Helped Trump Once. Don’t Let Her Do It Again.”

She dismisses the “spoiler mythology” that has come to define her mainstream identity, noting — accurately enough — that some of her supporters would never back Ms. Harris anyway.

She says that Democrats would do well to look inward, disputing that she bears any responsibility for Mr. Trump’s fortunes, then or now.

“Those conversations never go anywhere,” Ms. Stein, 74, said in a wide-ranging interview.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No one ever asked her to start, either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe not start but I'm sure there're groups that have encouraged her to keep running over the years. Eyes picture of her at dinner with Putin, other Russians and Flynn who Trump pardoned. Though I'm sure there're good reasons for her to be in that picture that aren't shady...I expect a lottery win about the time they make sense.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (12 children)

To draw votes away from the Democratic party nominee at the behest of her Russian donors. NBC News Link about the infamous dinner.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Stein has already been cleared of colluding with Russia. Your image is ten years old.

The reason you might not be aware of this is the /Politics mods banning people who debunk it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You're right, it was 2015, but as a simple layman I was aware of Russian meddling by the time this dinner happened. So if Jill and the Green party weren't aware of how bad this would look, and how worthless an olive branch to Putin would be, then at the very least they're too incompetent to be worth a vote. Unfortunately I did not know about this gaffe by the time of the election and even voted for Stein in that election, which I still regret.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I know, but what is she getting out of it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Money and a chance for power, obviously.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My take:

To demonstrate that there is a more leftist population in the US public than is regularly recognized and shift the entire discussion in that direction.

To create a strong alternative to the major pro-corporate parties that is more in line with the rest of the liberal parties around the world.

To oppose the highly organized far right.


No, I won't vote for her this year. But I can appreciate the above goals.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

To beat the duopoly

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To not have the kompromat that Putin is holding over her be released publicly?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is an interesting take

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I have no evidence to support it, besides her ties to the Kremlin that have already been widely reported on (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jill+stein+russia).

GREEN Party = Getting Republicans Elected Every November

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

I’m tired of hearing about Shit Stein every 4 years

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