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Meme: Screenshot of microblog post by @alanjack replying to @fotchi.

Caption: I still don't know why part of autistic/adhd diagnosis isn't putting you in a room with someone already diagnosed and seeing how quickly you bond.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago

Try diagnosing sex addiction with how well the addict clicks with others.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Drag knows lots of people with autism who are absolute assholes and drag doesn't get along with them at all. So this test wouldn't work reliably.

Ever seen Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs? Flint Lockwood and his dad both have big time autism, and precisely opposite mannerisms and special interests. They don't understand each other at all and it takes a lot of effort for them to get along.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 minutes ago

Yeah, me, my dad, and his dad all surely have it, undiagnosed. None of us got along. Dad and I are trying to work through it, but the man is stubborn and firmly believes I'm a prodigal son.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Solid take Drag, couldn't agree more

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

always cool to see a drag comment :]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Eyy, we meet again! I suppose it could help for a portion of autistic people

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

i agree, this method would never work. There are plenty of pairs of enemies that are both on the spectrum. My bully in high school had ADHD, just like me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Drag, may i ask you why you refer to drag in such a way? What would in most cases refered to as "third-person"? I'm genuinely curious.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Drag uses person-independent drag/dragself pronouns. They're inflected and conjugated the same way in first, second, and third person. They reflect drag's identity as a dragon rider.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, i can dig that. So which one is your favorite dragon?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Drag's favourite dragon is @[email protected]. We're dating. Drag also likes Saphira and Mushu, and thinks Smaug is hot. Drag doesn't like Toothless because he abandoned his bro.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I like you, drag. Don't let anyone give you shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

It's a drag

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

I find it real easy to detect ADHD in people but that doesn't automatically make me want to be friends with them. We're people like everyone else at the end of the day. Some nice, some not so much.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't work, I bond very slowly, due to long time isolation. Psychotherapy is not an option, due to it being defunded in my home country at an even greater scale than other parts of health care, because juST gO To ChuRcH anD PrAY.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm sorry to read that.

You're not wrong, a lot of people who are neurodivergent are mistreated in similar ways. That can lead to anxiety, trauma, habits, etc. All of those can make diagnosis more difficult

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Huh, that actually checks out

[–] [email protected] 52 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

similarily if you pop 200mg of caffeine and fall asleep that might be a slight indication that you have adhd

[–] Crozekiel 16 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Just sounds like caffeine addiction. I used to be able to drinks pot of coffee and then go to sleep. Then health issues caused me to give up all caffeine for several years and now if I have half a cup im wired for hours...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

When you gave up caffeine did you experience rebound insomnia?

I gave up caffeine a month ago on my neurologists orders and it's been easy, no obvious withdrawal symptoms, no cravings, I just replaced all my tea and coffee and redbull with herbal tea and lemonade.

But I have not gotten more than 3 hours of consecutive sleep in this month, and I'm missing the relaxation and quiet that a refreshing 9pm redbull used to offer, I've got plenty of other relaxing rituals, but none so easy as just drinking coffee.

I started drinking coffee at 15 and religiously relishing redbulls at 21. Now in my 30s, this is the first time I've had true insomnia symptoms.

My mother has been an insomniac her whole life, my dad is narcoleptic, I was previously diagnosed with N24CRD and my brother has DSPS, so I come from a family of fucked up sleepers, but this is a new symptom set for me and it appears directly related to giving up caffeine.

I'm hoping it's just an adjustment period and my brain will sort itself out and get some sleep soon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I know some people are "caffeine addicted" but I genuinely don't know how the fuck people do it.

I drink a cup of coffee a day, 16oz, sometimes there's also an energy drink in the mix, on some really serious days I have a headache or migraine and an Excedrin adds a little more in the mix.

One day I made a full pot of coffee and decided to attempt to consume the entire thing over the course of the day. I felt like my heart was trying to escape from my chest and that I was soon going to die.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

An 8oz cup of coffee only has like 75-100mg of caffeine in it. With your 16oz cup plus an energy drink plus an Excedrin, that would be like ~400-500mg of caffeine. Assuming a typical drip coffee maker that can make 12 cups, you're looking at a total of like ~1000-1200mg of caffeine, double or triple your estimated daily amount. So it's kinda no wonder you felt wired that day. Extreme, sudden spikes in your stimulant intake will do that.

[–] Crozekiel 1 points 9 hours ago

That about sums up how I used to feel which caused me to stop consuming caffeine. When I could hear my own pulse while in a public place, I knew my blood pressure was a problem.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

True, but I never drink coffee and could drink one right now and go sleep. The same when I was prescribed methylphenidate, straight to sleep. A non ADHD brain would be going 100mph.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That's me in my normal rhythm of substance abuse with caffeine.

It might be that.

Then again, the funny thing about caffeine is that I can go without some for weeks as long as I'm not expected to work. Longest I've gone without was a 12 week, almost 3 month streak. The coffee I had in my kitchen went bad.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago

Being able to forget you are addicted to something is also an ADHD trait.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

That sounds a lot like self medicating to me lmao

[–] [email protected] 111 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

To be double sure, do the test once, then separate the people for three months, then reintroduce them and see if they just resume their conversation.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

"As i was saying before i was so rudely interrupted 14 years ago.."

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Livingstone#2000

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

I just long for the day I wake up and find that the Saudi royal family are swinging from lampposts and that they've got a proper government that represents the people of Saudi Arabia.

I’m starting to like this guy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago

Everyone is bisexual. Almost everyone has the sexual potential for anything.

Speech to Harrow Gay Unity Group (18 August 1981).

(totally irrelevant but thats freaking great)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 16 hours ago

...this got so personal so quickly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 14 hours ago

That describes every lasting relationship of my life starting with my best friend from first grade and ending with my best friend from the Navy. I think I've only had a single conversation with my best friend from first grade. It's not finished until one of us dies.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Ironically, this is how I found out.

I had four different people with ASD, including one person I met for the first time, tell me that I should get myself checked. One was after I had a several hour long convo with someone who could only normally talk with neurotypical people for about 30 minutes before it became a strain. He was shocked that I wasn't diagnosed and recommended I get checked.

Now the only reason I don't have a diagnosis is because the evaluator didn't understand how the criteria worked. Still debating whether to try again for a diagnosis or not.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Same. For years I wondered why I tended to gravitate towards people with autism or ADHD.

I don't have a formal diagnosis for ASD, but my current provider is very sure I have it. (She says I can get a formal dx, but it will cost a lot and will not really add any value to my life. This is my own situation, it may vary for other people.)

I suppose it depends what you want out of a diagnosis. I pursued getting evaluated for ADHD because I can pursue treatment with a diagnosis that isn't available to me otherwise.

Either way, good luck to you!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Childhood trauma can cause the same symptoms as autism but that usually gets worked out through therapy and some mood boosters.

Guess how I found out :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

Welcome to the club!

What's mood boosters?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I was visiting a doctor, a friend of my wife, and I was like 99% sure she had ADHD after the 20min visit. Didn't talk about it but after half a year my wife was telling how she was complaining how difficult it is for adults to get into ADHD meds

Adhdar is real

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Sooo wheneve I take those online tests I always come up as non-autistic, but stuff like this makes me wonder what’s up. I find it very easy to befriend/spend time around autistic people. One will typically seek me out in social situations because we get along well (and I guess I don’t make him feel like a weirdo/outsider?) Hmmmm

[–] [email protected] 13 points 12 hours ago

Have you been tested for ADHD? There’s a lot of symptom overlap.

It’s also possible you’re not properly adjusting your answers for what the test is really asking, vs what it’s literally asking. Ex: if you answer “disagree” to the statement “I have difficulty making it to appointments on time” because you don’t have that problem anymore now that you have an elaborate set of reminders you set for yourself, then “agree” is a more accurate answer to that question, lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 17 hours ago

I just joined a Discord server of mostly AuDHD people. Much easier.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 18 hours ago

Honestly, best detector.

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