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submitted 10 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

My peavey modeling amp was very proud that it went up to 13! :}

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

Here's the original for higher quality

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

For $2000? Is this comic from the 50s?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

11 is one louder than 10!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

No 11 is much less than 3,628,800

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like the last one is a marketer, not a smart engineer.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Capitalist engineer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sales executive. Paid more than engineers, is substantially dumber.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah but it’s where the real magic happens and the company would fall about without them because they’re irreplaceable.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Just for the record... it has to do with practicality.

the notches are spaced similar to a clock, but with the deadzone most potentiometers have, it doesn't go a full 360 around, so they stop at 11. This makes for an intuitive scale with familiar spacing on the notches- even if it is entirely arbitrary.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

That's not the history of that thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

so they stop at 11

you mean 10, most amps stop at 10.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

At the 11 o'clock position, I think they mean. That's a bit arbitrary tho

[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Based off of my peripheral I really thought that deadzone was Saddam for a second

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 hours ago

dammit.

missed an opportunity...

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I prefer my dials in base 16, my amp goes to F.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Mineis also base 16 and goes to 10. Which one is louder?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 hours ago

The difference between engineering and sales engineering

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

Some Peavey amps do go to 12

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yup anyone who as umlaut to an n will buy anything for "cool factor"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

This comment is like a New York Times daily game "which word is the typo?"

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

40 years ago someone made a joke

[+] [email protected] -11 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

So it's smart to scam people. Interesting take.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago

It said "smart", not "morally right".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

We live in a capitalist world, scamming is objectively how we base how successful and smart someone is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago

I'm gonna scam this amp to turn up to 12.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Celebrating selfishness and deception is just that, no matter how warped the perception of a theoretical majority of people might be. Perpetuating such nonsense will only cause more harm in the future. It's not a sign of good behaviour or even mental health to be well adapted to a broken system.

So yeah, not "smart". Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I can agree with you but also recognize that's contrary to the entirety of modern human society except ~7 countries representing just under 1/4th the GL bal population. But even then not really. I agree with the idea, but that's not going to be the world we live in without truly ridiculous amounts of violence (which I am not advocating)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s not a “take” it’s a joke

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

sigh even jokes communicate stuff; they're especially powerful in normalizing things.

I'm aware people hate it when someone criticizes jokes. However when bad stuff gets normalized it's necessary to point that out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

No, the joke wouldn't have been as funny if it said "scammer" instead of "smart engineer". Plus, I think it's more a jab at engineers rather than anything. Because most would rather argue/explain the whole 10 vs 11 thing than just go "ok, sure, I can do that " and get paid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

It's just a prank bro! /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

You're a moron to think this is about scamming someone. The smart engineer realized he can offer a louder option but didn't want to disturb the preset settings the customer is used to. If anything, not only is the engineer smart but empathetic towards how troublesome learning a new tool is like. Let me tell you it is not a problem that the volume is not standardized. Instead, it is nice to know that the customer can choose options he is familiar with AND now has a setting to go louder. Of course the much smarter way is to make the dial more analog input than a digital input. However, the digital dial will not move as easily when bumped. Trade-offs were made. For aesthetics and function. Yes I know some music nerds who like the dial more than a touch button.

Now don't get me started with how they can sell it however they want. If it is louder than the product it is comparing against and the buyer likes it then it is not a scam, it was a fair trade.

Yes it is possible to look at this image with different what-ifs, and from what I see, you are only looking at the what-if where the "smart engineer" is not even acting as an engineer but rather a con artist. If we were to take the meme more literally then the what-if I have explained above is more true to the intentions of the characters in it than your narrow interpretation.

/EndRant

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Isn't the joke that the smart engineer will change the labels on the knob since they don't have any unit? That's the scammy aspect. I don't think OC finds the idea of selling a better amp immoral