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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What an absolute cluster. I gotta say I'm on the side of OSU and WSU with this one.

Coworker said that the ideal outcome of all of this is the rest of the PAC loses their rights and Utah wins the nc but OSU and WSU only split the funds amongst each other. And I gotta tell you that the kind of twist I can get behind.

Edit: Can OSU and WSU, as the only members with votes, vote to kick out the rest of the PAC before the conclusion of the season? If so that means the matchup on 9/23 is the defacto PAC championship game. Winner gets an auto bid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yup. If the leavers wanted to dissolve the conference, they should have figured it out in advance and, y’know, dissolved the conference. Instead, they acted like everything was fine, and then ran around like chickens with their heads cut off.

I’m sure there will be a settlement, but I hope WSU and OSU take everybody to the cleaners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Auto bid? Are you talking about the Rose Bowl?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, for next year? Isn't there some rule about minimum number of members for:

  • NCAA "autonomous" status (aka "power" conference)
  • NCAA tourney (March Madness) auto-qualifying status
  • Eligibility to auto-qualify as a top 6 conference in the CFP when it expands to 12

I think that number is like, 9 members or something. So OSU and WSU are gonna have to find 7 or 8 friends real quick.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, it's not completely auto. A G5 champ can get in over a P5 champ.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

True. In most years based on the rankings, all 5 P5s would be in, plus one G5 as the sixth auto-bid, but there could have been scenarios where 2 G5s could leave a P5 out.

I guess it's worth noting that the PAC was resistant to this 12-team CFP model, even though it's vastly better for their conference than the 4-team version. They really wanted a fully automatic playoff berth (and now given how their conference is imploding, that auto-bid could have been a bit of glue to hold them together).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Aren't all of the teams leaving before next year when the expanded playoffs start?

Also, technically they're picking the top 6 conference champions. That doesn't mean that all P5 conference champions are getting in.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Makes sense to me. OSU and WSU should have whatever is left of the Pac12's carcass, including attempting to repopulate the conference if they want to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Good grief but I totally get the want to stop departing members from ruining this. Here's to hoping OSU & Wazzu don't get railroaded. They've been hurt enough as part of this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder what the PAC-12's assets are?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Let's see, cameras and equipment to broadcast in 720p for a network that no one has access to. Oh, and $50M of debt owed to Comcast due to an accounting error.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Playoff considerations, Cash deals, PAC-12 network, etc. There's still a fair amount of value in that division.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The fridge with all the chocolate milk and a pile of lightly used condoms?