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asserting my knowledge of theory
Ah, the old "you just need to read a whole bunch more theory before you're qualified to talk about anything" gauntlet.
Why should anyone waste time reading the prophecies when we've already seen how they've failed, time after time?
I get grim satisfaction from asserting my knowledge of theory against the smug liberals.
That checks out. Now if only the tankies would have the collective spine to admit that their countries of choice are capitalist-flavored imperialism under the self-proclaimed veneer of communism.
That requires them admitting communism doesn't really exist in the modern world. Quite scary for them.
It is religious or something with them. Paradise exists on Earth, for real, but they won't travel there. Like ancient polytheists who didn't bother to climb up Mount Olympus for a peek.
I mean there's Vietnam, Cuba and Laos. These are all communist systems.
They don't really care about them tho
I feel like solarpunk is definitely opposed to liberalism. I mean, it doesn’t enforce ideological purity the way tankies do so maybe that’s the source of the confusion? But it’s, at its heart, an anarchist movement.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not hostile towards solarpunk, but they're very anarchist any time I've interacted with them (not necessarily as a bad thing - I just still believe in a more institutionally rigid post-capitalist government, so there are disagreements). 'Liberal' is only how I would describe them to US centrists who can't hold more than one linear graph in their head at a time.
Cowbee is the most patient and cordial person about discussing theory on Lemmy. They're probably the person most able to make that comment without hypocrisy or irony.
They're still kindof a nut? They patiently told me that unmarked vans snatching up BLM protestors and Donald urging use of the army against voters was the exact same as Palestine protestors deliberately getting themselves arrested as civil disobedience by trespassing.