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Upon being criticised for their support of the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks, tankies unsurprisingly double down (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

this type of shit is part of what drove me away from hexbear (yeah I know it's embarrassing). many of them have the opinion that being a dick is worthy of corporal or capital punishment. is it dickish to intentionally trash on another culture's beliefs? probably yeah. but does it justify murder? fucking of course not!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

you're not alone. There's quite a few users in this community who are former-hexbear and lemmygrad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That is psychotic. They recognize it is wrong, too. They would be screeching in apoplectic rage if a radical opposed to their speech were talking about pipe bombing some sort of IRL Hexbear meme reposting event.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They only say it because they're edgy. They are actually very, very passive, i mean they have to put trigger warnings for adult content--If they can't handle seeing violence, they aren't going to do any of it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

not to shit on content warnings because I appreciate that different people have different things that can be very upsetting to them, but hexbear literally requires warnings on photos of ice cream. or cooked food that could possibly include an animal product even if you can't directly see it or tell the difference. I'm not joking or exaggerating, this caused quite a stir when the admins implemented that policy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

that's hilarious.

how do they expect to be guerillas or handle any revolution? also don't tell them about animal rights in china lmao

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

"Turnabouts fair play" eh? You heard him folks, time to bomb people who take the lord's name in vain inshallah.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apparently drawing Mohammad is worse than a fucking pipe bomb. Thank God I have the self awareness to browse communities outside of my echo chamber. I wish they did too

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

"What does this have to do with communism anymore?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

throwing a pipe bomb into an art contest

incredibly good and based

This is what happens when you become consumed by hatred. The most insane statements seem entirely reasonable to them, because they are blinded by fear and hate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Their love towards Islamic extremism is so strange.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

"Leftism" is when a economically right wing authoritarian state opposes America.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] I don't think your post worked out too well 🐔

also I want to point out the amazing differences between these communities. See, you're very much, unapologetically, a tankie, but you're fully allowed to comment and even engage in this community despite your farming and attempted framing that this community is extremist.

Now, if we were to do the same, we'd be defederated. Which we were!

Perhaps you should use the liberty this community has to actually ask for our opinions as opposed to fishing for responses. You'll find we're a very diverse community with many different opinions, some are even communists.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be fishing here if I wasn't getting bites, and I wouldn't have thought to dip my hook in the water if I hadn't seen abundant signs of good fishing.

You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don't provoke them. But they've not committed to civility like you've done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don't provoke them.

You actually believe this?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Maybe? ~~You should go and try provoking them, see if they still treat you with civility.~~

edit: goat is right, I was using sarcasm and did not indicate that clearly. I do not support going there to cause trouble, but you are absolutely allowed to go there and behave.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've seen how they behave on other instances, no way will they be polite and courteous when someone disagrees with them on home turf.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You just gotta know which things you disagree on, and why they might strongly disagree with you, and not just say "fuck it, imma blast off".

If you go in wanting to make a point then yea. They will not be courteous.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ah, love this.

'They're fine if you supply evidence to back up your claims'

'Actually if you try to do that then you'll be booted'

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Poor thing's got no idea how stupid they sound.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No brigading. Brigading is a headache for both admins

this community is an exception, although a rickety one

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don’t provoke them. But they’ve not committed to civility like you’ve done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma'd. Four different users also attempted to dox me. I know since I was in their private chatrooms during the time. Seeing them get frustrated when they couldn't do it was very entertaining. They even tried image meta-data, the poor things

And my mask? I don't have a mask. I'm very honest with my views and am willing to share them with anyone who wishes to know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can people with views that differ my own have come to those views in an honest and reasoned fashion, even if I think they’re flawed?

Nah, they’re definitely just bad faith fascists hiding their “power level”.

Scary easy to see how easy you end up with thought police when people that think like this hold power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Extremists tend to think everyone else is as extreme as they are. It's quite sad

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I have, and I was, and no, I got perma’d.

Welp, i guess there we have it. I've so far managed to avoid provoking them myself, cross my fingers I don't get on their bad side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Did you inherit a thousand years of piss-poor takes or are you just great at making shitty opinions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

why would you? you agree with them lol. try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you'll be in trouble

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

I have no way of knowing if that's accurate, nor to i have any way of knowing what it was that got you perma'd.

try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you’ll be in trouble

I probably wouldn't say that, because the US defeated communism (according to their own accounting). I would tread lightly around anything I may not agree with them on, but I do happen to agree with them on a lot. At least most of them. Half of them. Maybe slightly less than a majority of them.

What can I say, they aren't a monolith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

You can say that Stalin was bad, right?

What can I say, they aren’t a monolith.

But their hatred towards diversity and dissent is

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is disgusting! How is it legal for them to host this content?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Free speech and all.

you can try reporting them to authorities if you want