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It's funny when armchair experts insist that the fediverse won't catch on because "federation is too hard to understand" when arguably the most widespread communication system on the internet follows the same model

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Now if government officials start accepting a fediverse based communication, I will create a separate instance for that and it will be totally safe for work, only used for communications with the government.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

... but lemmy and masto do completely different things

masto's a microblogging platform like twitter and lemmy is a link aggregator like reddit

honestly i kinda wish there were a rebuild of email that is compatible with the old system but was redesigned from the ground up to do the job better

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m not technical enough to think it through carefully but I’ve always thought there was an opportunity for an organization like USPS to develop email 2.0 - something that gives people some kind of verifiable and secure email address so that users can easily find each other whilst filtering out spam (or to have spam taken into consideration in the design at the outset). You would design it based on strict standards that would be difficult to get around so that big tech could not easily co-opt it, and adopt for some kind of critical function (taxes, voting maybe?) so that it would encourage adoption en masse. Make it distributed so that users can selfhost it easily, safely, and securely.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah man if I were in charge of the post office I'd definitely push for that AND the return of postal banking. Every post office in the United States would be your one stop service for this email so if there are authentication issues or anything you can actually go there and talk to a PERSON, IN-PERSON.

You would use this system specifically for official government correspondence, and also it'd be better for job seeking too - any situation where you need to be communicating as YOURSELF, fully verified.

I'd even throw in social media features. Forums, microblogging, live chat groups... however, everyone's identity is clear and certain. No anonymity here. There is privacy insofar as what's between you and the government stays between you and the government, but if you want anonymity and to express opinions without someone knowing who you are, that's to be done elsewhere.

Instead of a social media website that lies to you and pretends dishonestly to give you privacy, this would have to be up front about the fact that it's public property. A town square where you're wearing a name tag. If you don't want your neighbors knowing your rhetorical positions, post them elsewhere. Those other places, private services, and important and need to exist as counterbalance.

I'm sure many criminals would be stupid enough to use it for human trafficking and contraband smuggling shit though so that'll help uncover and discipline rogue elements.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Usenet or Fidonet would be a more apt comparison

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

After email comes matrix. If you include all systems based on matrix, there are hundreds of millions of users already.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Mastadon and Lemmy use the same protocol.

You can even see accounts and posts from Mastodon on Lemmy, and the other way around too.

But yes, email is great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've heard it's (currently) impossible to post on Mastodon with a Lemmy account due to how both are differently built, unless you're referring to seeing a Lemmy discussion from Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

@P4ulin_Kbana
> I’ve heard it’s (currently) impossible to post on Mastodon with a Lemmy account due to how both are differently built, unless you’re referring to seeing a Lemmy discussion from Mastodon

I'm trying to reply to this with a Mastodon account. I'll be interested to see if it appears in the discussion on Lemmy instances, and if replies to it from Lemmy appear in my @mentions here.

@x00z

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

It does works 🫡

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Well that worked, I can see my reply as a comment on both Lemmy.nz (where I found the thread) and on https://lemmy.eco.br where @P4ulin_Kbana is posting.

Now someone reply, I want to see if this works.

@P4ulin_Kbana @x00z

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

kbin/mbin does have some mastadonesque facilities. So it straddles the line between threadiverse and I dunno what we call the mastadon side.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This smells like ego projection. These are tools for jobs, they don't have to compete.

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