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Ergonomic, split and other weird keyboards

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Keep it ergo

Posts must be of/about keyboards that have a clear delineation between the left and right halves of the keyboard, column stagger, or both. This includes one-handed (one half doesn't exist, what clearer delineation is that!?)

i.e. no regular non-split¹ row-stagger and no non-split¹ ortholinear²

¹ split meaning a separation of the halves, whether fixed in place or entirely separate, both are fine.
² ortholinear meaning keys layed out in a grid

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  • integrated RP2040 controllers
  • left Cirque trackpad
  • right trackball (golden trackball from Perixx)
  • dual rotary encoders
  • dual haptic feedback
  • audio buzzer
  • 3 way thumb switches
  • Gazzew U4 switches
  • MT3 Pulse keycaps
  • MJF nylon case printed by JLCPCB
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Very clean, well done!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there a less expensive option for a first time split ergo keyboard to give it a try before investing more money?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of the split kits are going to be around the same price. They start around 20. My Sofle kits were 25 each. You'd need to add a pair of MC's , switches, caps, which is where things get pricey. If you shop around you can find good deals. The PCBs and components represent a smaller part of the cost compared to the rest of the dressings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I never found anything that I considered "budget". Even the cheapest split mechs on ebay are $100, and I don't think I'd trust any of those.

If you give up the mechanical part and just want to try a split, I'm seeing those starting around $40 shipped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no problem spending the money on a good setup I just don't have the funds to be able to jump right in spending like $300+ before I even know if I like the split setup

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I can to a certain extent. Thanks I'll look into it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I built my Cheapino for less than $50 USD https://github.com/tompi/cheapino

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would something like this be good to give the whole thing a try? Kinesis Bluetooth Freestyle2 Ergonomic Keyboard for PC (20" Extended Separation) https://a.co/d/34ydGWq

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Holyginz @Wheeljack

I’ve been using a Kinesis Freestyle/Freestyle 2 for years now (perhaps even for a decade?) I’ve worn the bumps off the f/j keys on the first keyboard.

I have two primary gripes. First the number 6 is on the left keyboard half. From a correct touch typing standpoint it should really be on the right half.

Second, between the original Freestyle and the 2, the insert key was moved to the ‘fn’ layer so you now have to hold down two keys to send insert.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Holyginz @Wheeljack

I started with the Freestyle because that’s what my workplace had available for split keyboards without a built in number pad. (I wanted to move the mouse in closer)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome! Thanks for the advice! I think I will give the freestyle a try and see how I like it then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. I built my Cheapino for less than $50 USD https://github.com/tompi/cheapino

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Clean, nice build!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are some of the blue keycaps upside down?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's just because of the shape of the keycaps, I want the keycaps of the thumb keys going "upwards".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

One of the cleanest fingerpunch builds I've seen yet. Outstanding work!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a really cool build, well done! I'm wondering how you're using the trackball and mouse clicks. Do you use the trackball with your index and middle finger and have left and right mouse click on the thumb keys to press them with the thumb?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes I use the trackball with my index and middle finger and the 3 way thumb switch is mapped to left/middle/right mouse click. The trackpad is used for scrolling.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ohhh I didn't even recognize there was a little switch. Really cool! Thank you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's not that visible in the other picture 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is beautiful. How much did it end up costing al told?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Roughly 400eu, but I'd say half of it are the keycaps and the case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the board I want to build for work! Just need to learn to solder first lol.

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