this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2024
876 points (98.9% liked)

News

23424 readers
2514 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Ryan Girdusky clashed with British-American journalist Mehdi Hasan on Monday night.

CNN has banned a conservative commentator from appearing on the network again after he told a Muslim journalist "I hope your beeper doesn't go off," an apparent reference to the spate of exploding pagers in Lebanon that killed members of the Hezbollah militant group last month. 

Ryan Girdusky made the comment during a heated debate with Mehdi Hasan, a prominent British-American broadcaster and an outspoken critic of Israel's war in Gaza, on "CNN Newsnight" with host Abby Phillip. 

The guests were discussing the racist jokes made by comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, which overshadowed former President Donald Trump's rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday and continue to make headlines two days later.

As the debate turned fractious, Girdusky and Hasan sparred over whether the latter had been labeled an anti-Semite. "I'm a supporter of the Palestinians, I'm used to it," Hasan said.

Girdusky replied: "Well I hope your beeper doesn't go off."

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 305 points 1 month ago (32 children)

I'm still flabbergasted that there hasn't been more of an international outrage concerning those pagers.

The use of mines as an indiscriminate weapon are already frowned upon,

And here they are using them, scattered throughout a civilian population with absolutely no regard to who could be standing next to their target.

Un-fucking believable.

[–] [email protected] 172 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They bombed dozens of hospitals and orphanages across two countries and also started a starvation siege since that time.

There is no outrage left

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (5 children)

There is no outrage left

This really hit me. As in maybe it explains some things since the internet was created. It’s indeed so hard to keep up.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There hasn't been outrage because blowing up people with pagers is actually the most targeted thing Israel has done in the past year. Certainly a step up from killing hundreds of refugees to maybe take out one hamas guy.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (6 children)
load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

They killed children in that pager attack. Which I guess is part for the course, so ya, nevermind, you might be right.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There has been minimal pushback to the Israeli apartheid regime and decades long genocide in Palestine. You think a few more deaths are going to inspire real international action?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (42 children)

Not mines, IEDs. It was an indiscriminate terrorist attack on a civilian population using improvised explosive devices.

load more comments (42 replies)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was a terrorist attack. We must condemn all terrorist attacks

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We must condemn all terrorist attacks

At this point it'd probably be less work to praise them when (if?) they don't commit any...

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

What's even crazier for me to wrap my head around is those pagers were a safer method for civilians than what they've been doing. They're indiscriminately leveling city blocks killing thousands of innocents.

load more comments (26 replies)
[–] [email protected] 245 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Girdusky appeared indignant on social media in the hours afterwards and said in a tweet "apparently you can't go on CNN if you make a joke."

"It was a prank, bro!"

The last refuge of the Trumpist shitheel.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Playing off hate as a joke, this is why it's okay to punch nazis

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago

Punching nazis always produces a smile if not a laugh

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Yup, there's also this idea that certain people like to posit that Nazis never laugh or attempt to make jokes. It's not that you aren't joking, it's what your joke says about you.

I can understand that in a particular moment you're not calling for the literal death of your political opponents, yet still believe you'd be pretty okay with the literal death of your political opponents, and your "joke" may well help me be more confident in my conclusion.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's always a joke when these folks get pushback.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s called a Schrödingers douchebag. Something is both a joke and not a joke until one is called out.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

aka the Trump superposition.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yup. It came off as ignorant hate, not a joke.

“I’m a supporter of the Palestinians, so I’m used to it.”

“Well, then I hope your beeper doesn’t go off.”

“Did you just say I should die?”

“Are you a Hamas?”

https://youtu.be/QwmFv4jnH-4

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was my point. His response was, "It was a joke, bro" which is the last refuge of Trumpist shit heels like him. "I'm sorry that my racist, hateful comment offended you."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I was supporting your point with the interview itself, since it wasn’t linked in the article.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

This goes back a long way. There are posts on neo-nazi BBS systems from the 80s where they are talking about the strategy of making a racist comment, then playing it off as a joke if there’s pushback, and noting that a given audience may be receptive to more extreme and overt racist messaging in the future.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 month ago (21 children)

Basically telling someone who's Arab, "I hope you die" in the most racist way possible.

This hate is brought to you by Israel.

load more comments (21 replies)
[–] solsangraal 94 points 1 month ago

GOP: "stop canceling me!!! everyone should be able to say whatever they want!!!!"

also GOP: "stop kneeling for the anthemmmmm!!!!"

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Israelis are now using the same arguments as they do in Israel on American TV.

Not even Western media can protect them from themselves anymore.

The absolute state of Hasbara.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Good that they banned him. Wishing someone that has a conversation with you but does not agree with you this kind of harm means you need to be excluded from the discourse.

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago

What an utter piece of trash. I'm sure he'll have a good home at Newsmax or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Who financed Hamas to destabilize the PLO? Israel.

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Going on Twitter to complain that your bigotry wasn't well received and then suggesting that Qatar funding is partially to blame is peak irony

https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacomotognini/2022/11/12/qatars-backing-of-elon-musks-twitter-deal-raises-questions-ahead-of-the-fifa-world-cup/

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Mehdi is the GOAT.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Video clip of the comment and aftermath during discussion (via twitter): https://x.com/Acyn/status/1851085909435039789

"Are you a supporter of Hamas?"

"Are you a racist, violent person inciting violence against me?"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Good. The guest deserves to be gone.

load more comments
view more: next ›