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I've been a big fan of the slick interface of Omnivore. It could process web sites, email newsletters and RSS feeds.

The users have just been informed that Omnivore has "joined" the AI startup Eleven Labs. It may be bitter how OSS projects are being sucked up by AI, but that alone sounds innocuous enough.

What is upsetting is that the users have only until the 15.11 to export their data, after which the service will be deactivated. The export format is only usable with Eleven Labs, and exports for Pocket, Instapaper, etc are not offered, which I find just insulting.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You're telling me THIS is where I'm finding this out???? Gah fckin damnit, time to find a new one.... Any recommendations?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

I like Wallabag. Snuggles in nicely with my chosen RSS: Miniflux

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Same man... Tested a lot too, this was the only pleasing one for me Hit me up if you test a good one

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So fork the latest enshittifree release, setup your own web app, pretend nothing has changed?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Omnivore is not easy to self-host and now I understand why.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Yeah... This was probably intentional. Now we get why ! They didn't put to much effort for the self-hosted version, because they didn't want you to self-host.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ah, great work cornering the market. Let the "AI"s have it then.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're into self-hosting there's Wallabag, but it's not half as slick as Omnivore.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

I second Wallabag — IMO "slick" is a nice-to-have, not a must-have when weighing software choices against each other.

At least Wallabag has a long and robust track record of not selling users out to bullshit tech corpos. That counts for more in my book than shiny surfaces.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There's also readwise reader which is better in most ways. Not open source - but also not pretending to be either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Also not exactly cheap!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So are they somehow able to relicense by buying off the contributors? Or does Eleven Labs intend to host/use something under AGPLv3? Just trying to figure out what their plan is and how they're dealing with it being open source

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Everything that exists as it is now will remain open source. More than bought the developers seem to have been hired by eleven labs and most likely have been working there for a while, so they are actually taking their know how and experience there more than taking the code itself.

That's how it looks like to me.

Another possibility is that the eleven labs reading app has portions licensed as agpl, the ones taken from omnivore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

Thanks, yeah looks like they are wanting to build on their own reader app.

https://elevenlabs.io/blog/omnivore-joins-elevenlabs

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Gosh darn it I only just onboarded to Omnivore a few months ago Now I guess I need to find a new place to store bookmarks

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Same. I’m fucking furious. I specifically chose it over something like Readwise in order to stay open source. Ugh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Once you find a good and nice solution, please let me know. It seems the good things are always condemned to disappear.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

If it's just bookmarks can recommend Floccus and LinkWarden.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

Shame on them. Already deleted my account and self-hosted hoarder.

[–] LiveLM 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why would a AI voice company buy a read-it-later service???

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

They have their own reader app focused on their voice technology. Probably the plan is expand it to a read-it-later app similar to what omnivore is, and charge a subscription for ir. Similar to readwise but more focused on voice, I would think that's the plan.

Remember that so far nobody is making money with "AI" other than NVIDIA so they are starting to do these far out or whacky pivots to seek monetization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Stumbled upon it not too long ago but hadn’t yet determined it important enough for me to use yet. But I can see the tech stack looks like something I could get back into. If a fork starts I might finally move my lazy ass to do a PR here or review there. I’ll keep an eye out on it