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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is this worth it or is it just K9 with a different name? Like does it really add anything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

It looks better imo

Also you will have to check whether k9 will still receive updates

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thunderbird for Android 8.0

When can I get it for android 14? End dad joke.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I get the joke, but also I was shocked to see in the article:

Thunderbird for Android runs on mobile devices running Android 5 and above.

Who out there is still running Lollipop?! That came out over a decade ago. You can't even get Thunderbird through the Play Store because Google Play Services dropped support for 5.1 back in July. I have so many questions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

I mean Thunderbird on windows always liked like it could work on windows 95 so I'm not surprised

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

After waiting years for this I ended up using FairEmail, which is absolutely amazing. I'd have a hard time switching to something else at this point.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've been fairly happy with K9 but if they are about to Mozillify it, I will check out FairEmail.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I don't understand the downvotes. Mozilla's new CEO is questionable at best. He's been stuffing ad-related nonsense into Firefox since he assumed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Is Mozilla that involved in Thunderbird? IIRC their revitalization happened more under The Thunderbird Foundation after Mozilla put them out to pasture to die after years of neglect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Last time I talked about Thunderbird here on Lemmy (and was downvoted because, allegedly, Thunderbird and K-9 are the exact same app, according to [email protected]), I seem to recall it was however mentioned one of the differences between the two is that Thunderbird was going to include setup for Google play subscriptions (whatever that is)...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

They mention it in the article, but I think its purely for donations, so you can subscribe to donate on a monthly basis

[–] [email protected] 16 points 13 hours ago

🥳

Been looking forward to this for a long time—K-9 Mail is an excellent mail client, but this is one step closer to Desktop/Mobile sync.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Unfortubately I am locked in to protonmail :/ otherwise I'd love to use it, looks great

[–] [email protected] 15 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

There is apparently a way to set up a bridge that will allow you to access it, but that sounds like an awful lot of work. It also requires connecting to a PC running the software, and I would imagine it affects the security of the messaging (which may be the reason to choose proton mail in the first place).

https://proton.me/support/protonmail-bridge-clients-windows-thunderbird

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat - with them for the encrypted email, but it does hold me back from using third party apps on mobile. Hopefully they get an easier way to use third party apps on mobile. Will probably just end up being a mobile bridge app or something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They have an app though, do you not like it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

It's pretty but feature-deficient and not very pleasant to use compared to third party email apps imo

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Thx! That's for desktop. The bridge is alright. There's no major drawback to it afaik. But this is news about android. Thunderbird bought k9mail

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The bridge just creates imap/smtp servers, so you should be able to add it to thunderbird on Android.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

That's very good to know, thx! But that means I have to run the bridge on my server, open the ports there etc. , right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Edit: just tried this and it didn't work. Proton bridge only listens on 127.0.0.1 and doesn't accept incoming connections due to security concerns.

If I were in your position, which I am and will probably end up doing this, is vpn into your home network and just connect to the local IP of your bridge server.

WG tunnel on F droid allows for you to auto connect to your wireguard server when you leave your home net, and auto disconnects when you get back on your home net.

Personally, I'm unsure if proton bridge listens for external request or if it only accepts requests from localhost? If that's the case it may be an issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

https://github.com/exander77/proton-bridge-android

There is a way to do it locally on an Android device using Termux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why locked? Proton mail does'nt have a protocol?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago

No IMAP/SMTP support with ProtonMail. You have to run their bridge application locally to get that functionality.
IMAP/SMTP does make their encryption at rest impossible, AFAIK similar providers like tuta don't have those either.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. Calendar is even worse. There's no bridge at all. Proton should've used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Proton should've used a standard protocol and put their encryption on top of it in a separate layer to make it comlatible with other software

That's a hacky approach ngl. Security would've left the chat the exact moment they had a thought about doing that in their heads. Proton is a known company. Imo developing their own protocol is a good decision if they can't make the existing one work properly at all.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 14 hours ago

Proton sucks.

I had an account, way too many problems. Apps sucked ass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone know if they plan to add other parts of the desktop version to the Android version? Would be nice to see at least the calendar. The RSS stuff would be cool too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I think I remember reading some comments in a previous blogpost that it wasn't really in the near-future roadmap at least. I think there are a couple good android calendar apps without needing Thunderbird to port that. RSS sync would be great though, I'd love that too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

Just downloaded the apk. Thanks for the heads-up!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Great news!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

As I already said on Mastodon, I'm surprised how good the app looks. Couldn't expect that from Thunderbird.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 14 hours ago

It's actually K9 mail with a new name. They went over to the Mozilla foundation a year or two ago.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Thunderbird 128 ESR has a really nice/modern look. Besides, if you don't like the default look, you have plenty of themes to use with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Does it support schools microsoft exchange ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Seems unlikely - I believe Office 365 disables third-party email clients by default these days

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Exchange ActiveSync is a licensed protocol. If any FOSS app handles it for free I'd love to know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago

Evolution in Linux does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What's the use of active sync ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

ActiveSync is to Exchange as IMAP/POP3 is to other email providers.

So if you want your email client to speak with an Exchange server you're using ActiveSync, not other protocols used by other types of servers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder how much the success of Thunderbird affect Firefox

[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago

Note that -

Operated by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation, Thunderbird is an independent, community-driven project that is managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird community.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird