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Kiev will conscript 160,000 more troops over the next three months, according to statements from lawmakers and media outlets. More than a million soldiers have already been drafted, yet high losses have left the Ukrainian Armed Forces plagued by manpower shortages.

The Ukrainian Armed Forces had around 250,000 active-duty personnel at the beginning of 2022, a number that rapidly swelled once Vladimir Zelensky called up reservists and forbade draft-age men from leaving the country.

This spring, faced with mounting losses, Kiev lowered the draft age from 27 to 25 and significantly tightened mobilization rules, requiring potential recruits to report to conscription offices for "data validation." These checks often result in people being immediately taken into the army and sent to the front line.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

lol forced.

The wording of these things. While technically correct, it’s a draft. Because you know, the thousand day invasion threatening their existence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

That’s literally what forced means. Are you an Israeli or something?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 55 minutes ago

It’s the negative connotation of the wording that I was implying, not the meaning.

Are you American or something?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

Because you know, the thousand day invasion threatening their existence.

Whose existence?
Seriously, what kind of mental gymnastics one needs to do to consider this a valid argument..
Show me, how is the existence of people on liberated territories (like Crimea, Melitopol and so on) are threatened?
Or maybe those people are actually okay (well, at least relatively to those of us who are still stuck on Zelensky controlled territories...) and it's the lives of those whom Zelensky can still reach are threatened, because his regime can kidnap them at any moment and send to the meatgrinder?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

What a dire situation.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

Forced? Their fighting for their survival for fuck's sake.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

no dear, that's the palestinians. the ukrainians will be mostly fine once this war is finally over.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

Are you contesting that it's "Forced"? It matches the textbook definition of the word

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

Yeah the conscription can be pretty violent

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

That's so easy to write isn't it? I'm no coward, but I'm not sure some arbitrary border on a map is enough to motivate me to give up on seeing my daughter grow up. I understand that Russia is a fascist state led by a mad man who should be fought. Giving your life for that is no easy decision tho.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

The people who are forced to the frontline certainly do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

The only "fight for survival" is against Zelensky.