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If you didn't know, on DuckDuckGo you can search for posts or magazines with site:kbin.social just like you would with Reddit. The same applies to any other Fediverse site like Kbin, Lemmy, Mastodon, etc.. I was really frustrated because it seems like Google was intentionally suppressing them.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey thanks for the tip! I also felt like fediverse was being suppressed by google, but wasn't sure whether thats the case or does google just need time to properly index these sites.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's part of it, but Lemmy has been around for as long as Tildes so it doesn't really add up. Tbh this was my main issue so now I don't have a good reason to go back to Reddit ever.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It the other way around: kbin.social explicitly does not allow indexing by search engines. If DuckDuckGo ignores this default, the fault is basically not with Google.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Because it puts a considerable strain on Kbin’s servers, because there is a lot of content to crawl.

I suspect (hope, even) that if Kbin runs on beefier hardware some time in the future, crawling can be enabled. However, since Kbin is completely free and devoid of ads, we would probably need to start a donation drive to make that happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Theres a buymeacoffee.com link in the About section at the bottom of the page.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't even be opposed to awards to fund stuff, although I could see the slippery slope of money 😞

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Indexing helps a LOT for discovery both of new content and old answers alike ... Would love to see kbin start showing up in search results instead of Reddit when trying to find answers to technical issues...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ah, makes sense. I seems like 90% of the Fediverse's problems revolve around size limits. I feel bad for Ernest having to deal with all of this himself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To be a suitable replacement for Reddit, it's going to have to allow it at some point. Everyone knows the way to find anything now is to add "reddit" to the search term in google now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Alternatively, a custom indexer for the fediverse could be set up. That would be a lot more efficient in teens of network traffic for everyone involved, and the search engine wouldn't rely on a specific instance (kbin in this case) to have complete and accurate data.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in order every single Fediverse instances, I'd have to include all of them? It'll be more fun if something that can exist to globally search every instances (and give us filter to opt out of some that the user do not enjoy) instead of making it a long long string like site:kbin.social + site:lemmy.world... Like kind of how greasyfork is doing with their search engine, I like it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Cool! I added this URL as a bookmark: https://www.google.com/search?q=(site%3Akbin.social+OR+site%3Alemmy.world+OR+site%3Ash.itjust.works+OR+site%3Abeehaw.org+OR+site%3Alemmy.ml+OR+site%3Alemmy.ca+OR+site%3Amidwest.social+OR+site%3Alemmy.blahaj.zone).

Now I can click it and add anything in the front of the search to find things across the entire reddit-like fediverse. I tried the same with DuckDuckGo and it didn't really work? Might need different formatting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@slicedcheesegremlin
Mastodon users have the option to opt-out of search engines indexing by adding tags to their post hat are readable by web crawlers.

So you might not find everything from mastodon, but for a reddit-like it makes sense to be indexed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Assuming crawlers actually respect it. I've had to IP ban some crawlers because they didn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That makes sense, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since nobody has mentioned them in this thread, you should know that there are search sites for Lemmy communities.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities
https://browse.feddit.de/