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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sigh... while "good news", I really hope this doesn't put the push to recycle lithium batteries on the back burner.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The demand for lithium is still high enough that both are required, so it’s still good news regardless. But lithium batteries are still not super great due to the complex chemistry required.

I’m more interested in the solid state, sodium-ion, or the zinc based depending on the application and whether they can work out some of the hurdles.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Its going to mean nothing unless its easy to seperate from the rest of the sediment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

USA really does have everything.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could also be really really small. It could also be capable of feeling and thinking.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The little lithium deposit that could

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh! 😳 sorry man! We found a family of sea skunks living in that part of the fossilized forest. Plus it's where they buried Fred. Nah. You'll have to go dig down in Bolivia.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So we can continue to use China/Bolivia's slave labor to get lithium instead?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You are right, there is no slave labor in the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instead, let's underpay our own.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sounds better than slave labor, no?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

At least with slave labor you get lunch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The USA has the largest network of slave labour camps in the world.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

You need to read up on the 13th amendment of the US constitution, and look up how manufacturing works in the USA.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We don't need lithium batteries for electric busses. Cities have had electric lines above streets to power electric busses for decades.

Same for electric trains.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Want to replace fossil fuels?

You have two options. Nuclear, or renewables.

Renewables, however, generally don't produce consistent energy output. So, you need a way to store the surplus, and release it at night time.

The most effective way of storing this energy, is currently pumped hydro. However, it has very specific geographical restrictions, and isn't an option in most cases.

The other option, is lithium, until a better alternative is produced.

As well, you need to replace fossil fuel usage for vehicles. The only current suitable alternative with an "OK" energy density, charge rate, and output capacity, is lithium based technologies. Typically uses Li-ion, or LiFePO4.

Have a cell phone? Its powered with lithium batteries. All cell phones, are powered with lithium. Typically LiPO, or Li-ion.

One day, this will change, but, until that day, lithium is needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Green methane works great for storing and transmitting energy