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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's really simple: you stfu and listen.

Turn off the narrative, the inner monologue, the train of thought. You probably can't shut it down completely - that's okay, just let it go each time you notice it.

Meanwhile, the back of your mind is constantly generating chatter. Passively eavesdrop on that chatter. You won't be able to make much of it out, it's mumbling and disconnected scraps, like someone else's conversation across a cafe. That's okay. Just kind of tune in; if you get stuff, you get stuff.

Being still enough to listen relaxes your body, and the listening-state and the space you create for it soon fills up with dream-gibberish - and that segues smoothly into actually dreaming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That bit about mumbling background chatter. This is news to me. Does everyone else have that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, maybe not precisely as speech, but y'know, the undergrowth that your actual articulated thoughts stick out of.

You can't tell me that when you stop actively driving the process, it's a complete ghost town in there, because that's just too terrifying to contemplate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I quiet the verbal, what replaces it is visual. The undergrowth, wow, you really have a way with words.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

No phone, No light, no noise, slightly cold temperature, read a book, have vigorous sex.

Alternatively some strains of weed also work allegedly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Warhammer 40K lore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t drink coffee or tea past 4:00PM

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't seen exercise mentioned nearly enough in this thread. Doing an hour of yoga before bed makes sleep soo much easier.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I like a podcast called Fall of Civilizations. It's very calming, quiet accounts of dark periods in history. Despite the juxtaposition, it's very chill and relaxing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Step 1: Acquire idiopathic hypersomnia

Step 2: Sleep and never stop

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Do relaxing activities before bed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Understand it's a skill you can practice. Close your eyes, get comfy, relax your body, find a happy thought.

[–] mynamesnotrick 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Working out helps a bunch.

Medication:

Diphenhydramine 50mg.

Then diphenhydramine + Melatonin (20mg) (if I want to be dead asleep but will be groggy in the morning. Only used as last resort).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Exercise. If you aren’t physically tired you’ll have a hard time falling asleep. Most people with physical jobs have no problem sleeping.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Take 1 g of niacin and 1 mg of melatonin right before bed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree that niacin is great for sleep, but that’s quite a large dose of niacin. The average person is going to have a pretty significant flush effect just from a 50mg dose. 1g is gonna prickle and burn like nobody’s business.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's strange. Most niacin doses that I have seen are in the 500 mg range and the suggestion I was told was to take one gram and I don't notice any weird issues from it at all.

the niacin is supposed to help reduce free fats in your bloodstream and prevent or reverse atherosclerosis and to help get your blood flowing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is what I tell my children, get comfy, relax your body, close your eyes, and think of something happy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I heard the US military swears by a bodyscan meditation exercise. That works for me, or at the very least calms me way down. Sometimes I'll try and take a short walk through the night, because I love it, but thinking about leaving the bed an getting ready for outside makes me very sleepy :) . Good luck falling asleep, unwanted awakeness is super boring and gets old really quick.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

In addition to all the above, I found a weighed blanket really helped me. Make sure your room is very dark, pitch black. If it is not, upgrade your blinds or a sleep mask. I got one that's simple and cotton and it works wonders.

Now its winter I also have a heated blanket.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

How To Trick Your Brain Into Falling Asleep | Jim Donovan | TEDxYoungstown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dE25ANU0k

Meditation works really well for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Progressive relaxation. Seriously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

dont move at all. get comfy, then stop moving. dont even scratch a slight itch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Close your eyes and lie very still

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Controlled breathing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
  • Partial tip: There's often the suggestion of concentrating on breathing, usually with some kind of regular pattern. This is an alternative to try.

You'll need to have been in bed for a while, mind racing. Take how extreme that racing is and then taking a similarly extreme, almost uncomfortably deep breath to match it. This requires having been in bed for a while.

Hold it for a bit. Don't count seconds - avoid numbers. As soon as you get the vaguest hint from your body that you need to let it out and breathe normally again, do so. Try to relax as much of yourself as possible as you do that. This is not a "hold your breath till you pass out" thing. You want to go back to breathing normally.

If the breath was too deep and that freaked you out a bit, try going a bit more shallow on the next one.

This has sometimes worked for me, especially if I've been asleep already and can't get back to sleep.

Sometimes I've tried a regular breathing exercise after that.

Other times I have got out of bed and done something mindless for a while until I felt tired again. No doomscrolling.

  • More traditional tip: No caffeinated beverages for at least 6 hours before you go to bed. Yes, six. Nine's even better.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

routines routines routines. same bedtime, same wake up time. if you establish a routine, it should take 14 days to kick in

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