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That should not stop you from trying. You, and everyone else in this thread for that matter, just drop excuses. Either you guys finally start removing some billionaires, I'm all for that, or you start doing the little things. Ideally, just do both.

Can the students asking this remove billionaires? (Without going to prison)

No, so whats your point? They want to do something. Telling them to not do things because those things are less significant than other things that could theoretically be done is nihilistic.

Not really. You have to remove the companies that made them a billionaire or they'll just be replaced.

1. Vote for candidates who will do something about climate change

That's the one for removing billionaires.

Here in the USA, the overwhelming majority of poor people eat meat; even the homeless! They just get low-quality processed meat instead.

We need information, math, data that distinguishes between:

A) tragedy of the commons--you doing it yourself won't make a difference, but everyone doing it will, so you doing it yourself makes a difference, and

B) the change is so minuscule that even if everybody in the world did it, it still wouldn't move the needle.

Everything in B should be replaced with "clobber billionaires and coporations and governments", but nothing from A gets misplaced in B.

Suggestion #1 (voting for candidates who support pro-environment legislation) results in the sweeping systemic changes that you're looking for.

Mega corporations like nestle get their money from us normal civilians not caring about what we consumes impact on the environment.

Like if you literally disbanded nestle over night, not even splitting them up or selling things off but somehow just got rid of them and all their product's... does the negative impact on the environment go away? or do new companies grow to meet the unmet demand and all that's changed is what company is providing cheap goods at the expense of the environment?

That's a major problem today - "what can I do?" means "where should I post about this?". If it can be done with two thumbs on a phone, today's activists are all over it.

Thoughts and prairs

*consensus on Hexbear

edit: sorry seems to have contaminated this instance as well

The political advocacy would (in the best case) still end up with a ban on these actions that disproportionately impact the climate so why not just start getting used to tofu already?

That's not what your source says though.

It says "having one fewer child" is the recommendation that should be given, and logically so

I was under the impression that cargo ships were actually pretty efficient due to their absolutely massive capacity. Compared to things like airplanes, I mean.

I agree to some extent, but I don't necessarily think that we have to or even can live modestly for a generation. We "just" need to do things the right way. Right now we are not even offered the option to.

Global shipping can help ensure that the production happens where it is most efficient. The large quantities being shipped also minimizes the emissions per product for the distance travelled, so global shipping isn't all bad. The most environmentally expensive trip is the one from the store to the home. It would be nice though if global shipping happened on renewable energy or wind. It might be slower, but it's already slow, so what's the difference. The local distribution also needs to addressed. Everything is being transported in trucks domestically. It would be better to use trains or even ships for a lot of the trucked stuff.

Things that can be produced locally should be available locally, and not shipped around the globe only due to pricing. The worst example that I know of is how American breed chicken is being frozen and send to China so cheap labour can do do the chopping and then shipped back for the American market. That's just disgusting and not at all efficient. That kind of economic incentives must be shut down politically.

Commercial aviation needs to be stopped, starting with the short flights. Trains are perfectly capable of achieving the same travel time and on renewable energy. As of right now it's not really an option to go fast cross USA or Europe by train, but this is primarily because we do allow those trips to be done way too cheap by plane and in cars. More expensive flights and cheaper direct trains could enable us to still go on the annual holiday without bad consciousness. And for the love of god, don't waste any more money on expanding car infrastructure. It's a bottomless pit that also destroys the opportunities for better options.