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[–] [email protected] 108 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Instead of a red mirage, we got a blue stayathomeandnotvote. Harris got 10-13M votes less than Biden in 2020, and even Trump seems to be getting less votes than the last time (counting still ongoing). I was told there would be a record turnout in this election.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

How about this: minorities shifted TOWARDS Trump!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yep. It's truly been an election that's not missing drama. Two assassination attempts, sitting president dropping out with 4 months left, open fascism, couch fucking, non-white female runner for the first time, all polls absolutely incorrect... Just to get an orange shit heap to fuck over Ukraine, Palestine and our climate. Could Igo back to the boring Obama years, please?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

'member when one of the highlights was "these two should settle it with a pokemon battle"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Again the polls seemed to be OK. I need to have the article ready with the headline "We are a normal polling error away from a landslide victory for either candidate".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually, no. If the landslide victory was within the normal polling error, like it was, you would see some polls giving a big margin for Harris, some for Trump and some having them tied. When all polls are indicating a very close race, something is off. Perhaps bad sampling, people refusing to reveal their candidate or some sort of consensus seeking in the polling methodology.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Shifted, or did the minorities who previously voted for Democrats stay home this time?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's both. Diaper boy did better than ever with black and hispanic voters. Turnout was also lower.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Depressed turnout has always been how Republicans win.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, except this time Democrats suppressed their own turnout

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, right-wing extremist propaganda pushed by the algorithms of youtube and tiktok suppressed the turnout.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a big part of it, but not all.

We've seen a global backlash against the party in power, in that context Harris refusing to distance herself from Biden absolutely contributed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I would note that she stopped separating from Biden when she got the Cheney endorsement and swung hard to the right. That's where the campaign momentum died.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Actually, 20 million votes are suspiciously unaccounted for

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Source? Or are we down to republican level of accepting losing?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yess a new conspiry!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

People not turning out is not the same as votes "suspiciously missing"

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the thing about records: they aren't always positive/in the trajectory you are hoping for

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[–] Omgboom 78 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I went to bed Tuesday thinking I was going to wake up to much better news lol, I feel mislead

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

On Halloween I had a friend I thought was fairly Democratic say he was close to voting for Trump and that's when I felt the dread.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My moms' voted for Trump I suspect and they're avoided voting for Republicans for a long time because of homophobia. One of them would ask things like "do you think a woman can be president" and would talk about how great she thought the stock market would do under trump. They just retired, so their well-being is now a lot more dependent on the value of their 401k than before though, so it might just be that rather than broader trends. Otoh, I've also seen her listening to like 30+ minute snakes salesman things on Facebook and be seriously believing of the obvious scam.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They're an insufferable asshole? I'd guess.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was Halloween, so maybe "insufferable asshole" was their costume.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess which country gets to celebrate Halloween every day for the next 4 years!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Brave of you to assume it'll end after four years

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's the thing, he's not a bad guy, and he says he did vote for Harris. His politics are fairly left of center, and his wife is definitely way left of center.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He joked about the insane amount of spam texts he was getting, but no real answer. He did say he ended up voting Harris/Walz.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hopefully he was also joking about possibly voting for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hopefully, but it didn't matter a ton in Texas, Trump was likely to win here anyway.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Reminds me of 2016. All the polls and guesses were Hillary had it in the bag. Woke up that morning feeling like someone sucker punched me.

I've been wary of predictions since then if for nothing else than to save me from developing a drinking problem to cope. Expect the worst and you'll never be surprised.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I just assume the worst. Unfortunately this time I was right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

We'll have to see what happens when the final numbers come in, but I suspect the polls had it more wrong this time than in 2016. They actually weren't that far off at that time. People forget that Hillary did actually win the popular vote, and the national polls were within margin of error. That might not be the case this time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Blue shift when?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I tried to warn people. But no one here wanted to listen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I distinctly remember saying months ago that too many people on this platform were acting like Kamala had already won.

God damnit I hate being right.

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