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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

This is worrying because reddit is basically the first search result of every google search right now

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Meh, it's also usually useless. Much less useful then it had been in the past. I honestly have more luck with gpt then scrolling through dead posts with 1 response that I have to load twice because anything other than old reddit is a psychic attack that will wound me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not saying it’s useful, but will lead to reddit gaining users who are then influenced by the right wing bullshit they come across.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Welcome to America. I watched my dad get indoctrinated from ages 14 to 30. It started after a bad divorce and I often wonder if there was ever a real, living, thinking, adventurous, person under there. He has so many story's of his extraordinary past but I look at him today and he's just a cog collecting garbage. If I had the financial freedom he managed to weasle out through inheritance and disability I would break down walls.

Sorry, got distracted, my point is it doesn't take a rabbit hole through some reddit link to fall into conservative media. They literally pump it out into the airwaves for anyone with a am radio to consume endlessly.

If there is any hope for future generations it will be the tradition of Americans to flip the table and fuck shit up. Unfortunately the GOP co-opted those types and are winning on that front too.

Will be interesting to watch their fall from grace. The ones who make it out. No more interesting then watching the fuck ups that escape the Mormon church, or anything of the sort, though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The US is already transitioning to a right wing society right before you eyes. Reddit as well as all mainstream media are just following this movement.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I wouldn’t have agreed with you a week ago but I think you’re right. I live in Loudoun county Virginia which is quite blue. My oldest kid who is 15 asked me if I was really voting for Harris, because he and his friends like Trump more. Then my second oldest who is 11 also told me he likes Trump more than Harris.

My family is Dutch Canadian so it’s not like anyone in my family was speaking positively about Trump. Quite the opposite actually.

They are getting all these ideas online and conservatives are absolutely crushing the digital landscape with podcasts and YouTube. They are making connections with the youth that the dems just aren’t offering right now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 hours ago

It's because they're offering easy answers to complicated problems. No one wants to listen to me explain for 45 minutes why something is an issue that dates back three decades and will probably require three more decades of fixing, they just want to feel good now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Be specific, right wing, authoritarian run, society.

They make women wear burqas in the middle east. The gnashing of teeth around here will be very unsettling.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well, it was the birthplace of t_d... not like it didn't have lots of right wing voices before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'm familiar with t_d. They have always been there but they would sequester themselves to right wing spaces. Election time they'd come out their hidey holes but were very easy to spot.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Just leave reddit.

Really, the platform has gone straight to shit in the last 18 months. There are possibly more bots than humans at this point, and a huge number of the people who made it good back in the day are gone. Much of the interaction is now driven by algorithmic rage farming.

Its CEO is a small-minded vicious little fascist. Staying on reddit helps support the hard right.

Leave. Don't look back. If Lemmy and Mastodon don't seem as exciting, make them better by being active here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

Lemmy is basically my /r/all and I find use for Reddit when it comes to niche subs. Maybe one day Lemmy will be useful for that but it’s nowhere close to that level right now. There’s also a ton of fucking clowns on Lemmy as well, and you all know who I’m talking about

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

No, I was only browsing and only because the lag between lemmy and reddit is kinda substantial. They will get breaking stuff faster.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It’s also had an increase in tankie views.

Looks like it’s becoming a pro-authoritarian platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Tankies are pretty crazy. Will be hard to keep things from becoming a fight between tankies and fascists.

Just remember, end of the day, these are archetypes that always end in oppression. You should lend your support to people who don't fit a mold. It might not be successful in its first iteration but through the iterative process it becomes the answer to an unsolved problem. It will have its own problems too. So remember to fend off bad faith actors best you can. A system designed to defeat authoritarianism will be weak to one emerging from inside.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm watching leftist subs already get filled up with Russian propaganda about the election being stolen. It's depressing. They're doing the same shit to us as they did to the right in 2020 and we're falling for it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago

I haven't seen any of my friends repeat stolen election claims. Most everyone seems to feel that the margin was huge, and the DNC fucked up, but it is what it is. A few are panicking and worried of violence, so we're getting together for a bonfire together to reassure them that we'll all be OK, and we are in an area where no one would allow harm to come to their neighbor. We lived through four years of Trump before, and it was stupid every day, and we'll live through it again.

[–] xenspidey 3 points 4 hours ago

Yep, vast majority is foreign actors is my guess. Trying to get us to tear ourselves apart

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly seeing how much shitty Reddit has become has made me realise, how better off I am now by quitting all the major social media platforms. We definitely need to start popularising alternative to the mainstream social media platforms esp as the major ones are super prone to disinformation and stuff, due to capitalistic interests etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Agreed. Lemmy is still coming along nicely, we've got a good suite of apps to choose from now, and features are steadily being added. It's significantly more ready for primetime than it was a year ago. Still a WIP of course, but useability is decent.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of active people left, be it here, Tildes, Discuit, Discord.

The population still there has a higher right wing ratio

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Reddit needs to switch because the right wing propaganda machine doesn't like competition and wants reddit for itself. They aren't going to Twitter it because it fragile enough, being mod run, to fall apart. Instead they will flip it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I noticed the exact same thing. So many comments either celebrating Trump or just saying that everyone is being dramatic and Trump will be fine. I've also seen a lot of comments calling reddit an "extreme left echo chamber" which is just funny

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I find it difficult to defend the idea that Reddit is not a leftist echo chamber. I love Reddit, but it's not a place you go for open and honest discussions between people from both sides of the aisle. Even non-political subreddits will meet right-leaning and conservative ideas with hostility. You can browse the front page of Reddit every day and never see a single thing even remotely pro-Trump or pro-Republican. That's not a knock on Reddit. That's just the truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 44 minutes ago

None of what you said makes it "leftist" though. In fact, I'd say you're likely to get banned from r/politics way faster attacking the DNC party-line neoliberal orthodoxy from the left than you would be from the right.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

I think seeing anything protrump hit the front page would be so triggering for anyone on there they would leave or have words. This is not a political environment where these two side can exist in the same space because one side is ok with authoritarian and xenophobic rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

but it’s not a place you go for open and honest discussions between people from both sides of the aisle

Where do you go for such discussions anyway?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Where do you go for such discussions anyway?

The closest I've ever found was a heavily moderated sub on Reddit. I have no idea if its still any good or not because I haven't been there in over a year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Right? What isn't an echo chamber?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

Not to be "that guy," but it really has been happening for quite awhile now (/r/thedonald as one example). And I agree it seems inevitable that it will only get worse.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

Reddit is going to transition to a right wing platform right before our eyes.

is going to

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Are you sure that isn't just bot regurgitating comment from a year or two ago?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure of nothing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Spez has been trying to emulate Elon as much as possible, sucking up to him whenever he can. He sees Twitter as the goal for Reddit to reach.

You're going to see the same thing happen on just about every major corporate social platform real soon. Meta's platforms, TikTok, YouTube, Twitch... They're all hurting for cash now that they've mostly dried up all their VC funding from the 2010s and are 100% going to appeal to the Right, who have promised to give businesses more rights and legal protections than ever before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Not the first time, same thing happened in 2016

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

2016 was an absolute shit show on Reddit. It was a dogfight between the Bernie Bros and the Trumpers until Bernie got knocked out of the primaries then knocked off Reddit by CTR. Then it was a dogfight between the ShillDawgs and the MAGAts with the t_d'ers eventually coming out on top because of their willingness to endlessly game the Reddit algorithm.