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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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There are downsides with downloading their app just to input bad data, but it's a fun thought.

edit: While we're at it we might as well offer an alternative app to people.

I posted in [email protected] to collect recommendations for better apps

The post: https://lemmy.ca/post/32877620

Leading Recommendation from the comments

The leading recommendation seems to be Drip (bloodyhealth.gitlab.io)

Summarizing what people shared:

accessible: it is on F-droid, Google Play, & iOS App Store
does not allow any third-party tracking
the project got support from "PrototypeFund & Germany's Federal Ministry of Education and Research, the Superrr Lab and Mozilla"
Listed features:
- "Your data, your choice: Everything you enter stays on your device"
- "Not another cute, pink app: drip is designed with gender inclusivity in mind."
- "Your body is not a black box: drip is transparent in its calculations and encourages you to think for yourself."
- "Track what you like: Just your period, or detect your fertility using the symptothermal method."

Their Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@dripapp

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

it's quite silly imo. unlikely to accomplish much or anything at all. teaching people about free software like drip is way more likely to actually help people. it's free, open source, and completely local.

edit: they even have a mastodon!

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not to mention that downloading that flow app will help them boost thier numbers, I doubt they'd care if men are using it as long as they can sell the data...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Would a bunch of users entering garbage data, with not all of them being totally obvious, make it harder to sell that data? Possibly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It might take a while for thier customers to notice that the data is garbage, or they might develop a way to figure out what data is garbage and still sell other data gathered from the OS/sensors etc from users trying to poison the data.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because moving people off Facebook messenger and over to Signal or WIRE instead has been so very effective.

You are right. We here know it. But we are a teeny tiny percentage compared to 340million.

Remember, inertia is a major driving force of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

eh, I'd argue this is very different than signal. for signal to work everyone needs to use it. if you want to use drip you don't need to make your friends use it too. it's as simple as installing it from the play store and using it like any other app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Really hard to help people who refuse to help themselves.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Drip seems to be the leading recommendation. I've edited the post with it so people seeing the meme also get the recommendation :)

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a reminder app that randomizes reminders for a medical issue I'm dealing with.

Sounds like I'll be dealing with two medical issues that app will require now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just curious, why randomize?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why randomize Flo or why am I doing it for other reasons?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The latter, for other reasons

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am dealing with a mystery illness which has made it so that I cannot eat solid food. I've had it for well over a year now. The current theory is that it is ARFID, an eating disorder that has nothing to do with body image like most eating disorders.

Because I never feel hunger or thirst, I have had reminders on my phone to have nutrition (Ensure and soup mostly) and drink water.

The doctor that I am working with thinks that randomizing my feeding routines rather than having them at the same time every day, which I was doing, will be therapeutic. I'm also supposed to do a sort of wellness check and log when I feel hungry three times a day. The answer is always either 'not hungry at all' or, if I'm really stressed, 'the concept of hunger is repulsive to me.' I don't want to say this isn't working yet though. It's only been a few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That sounds super interesting. Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 164 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So I just installed this right now after seeing this, and man this app has a lengthy initial startup process with dark patterns and everything. Now apparently I'm ovulating in two days. 🤭

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

I'm "abnormal" 🫨

So it's not normal to have a 55 day cycle? Oh snap!

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 day ago

I'm going to learn how to orgasm!

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So I fucking hate that this is where my brain went, but my kneejerk reaction to this was: "If I do this, could it be used as evidence to charge my wife with the death of a nonexistent fetus?"

I live in the cousin-fuckingly-deep south where women are incubators and a long list of stereotypes. I could definitely see it argued in court - successfully - that an app like that was only used on my phone to try to conceal my wife's data, and the data points to one of the ways we've criminalized pregnancy.

...and that's thinking about what could happen here and now. Once Trump has had his way with our country, we'd probably just get deported to one of daddy Putin's gulags or some shit.

I really fucking hate it here.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

not to mention the reason why you're only supposed to say the word "lawyer" to cops is they literally tell you: "ANYTHING you say CAN and WILL be used AGAINST YOU in a court of law." That doesn't mean "might or maybe" or "to help you."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Track your nightly flatulence on a piece of paper too, and keep the same data on it that you put in the app. If it makes it to court claim the app was just a convient way to track other things, and let the courts discuss your farts.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was an IT Crowd episode on the Manstrual Cycle

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Oh that's what I was remembering! Aunt Irma

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Done. If only I could script it...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

people will do anything but search for an alternative

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

...how do you mean?

Obviously we're not going to get everyone to download a FOSS period tracker, as nice as that would be -- they're already invested in the ones they're using, and no doubt it will have features and usability improvements the FOSS one doesn't, usually thanks to some network service that is fundamentally incompatible with the FOSS philosophy. That's almost always how these things go.

We should definitely be telling more people about F-Droid, but let's not get our hopes up. Socialism is about protecting everyone, even people who don't share your views, even if those views are objectively correct.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We should definitely be telling more people about F-Droid, but let’s not get our hopes up

Accessibility (not being on FDroid only) was one of the things I was looking for when looking for recommendations. Thankfully the leading recommendation is on Google Play & iOS App Store :) I have edited the post above with more details

Drip (bloodyhealth.gitlab.io)

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm doing my part!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

These symptoms might actually be related to the 12k mountain trail run I did yesterday after work, and I'm pretty sure the bleeding is because I got scratched by a spiky bush, but you cannot be too careful fellas

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Day 1065: still feeling fatigue. Poor sleep habits or longest period ever?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I ask my body this every morning.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Okay, but since real menstrual cycles are typically highly regular - wouldn't it be fairly easy to filter out the fake ones?

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Post text:

Dear men I need you to go download an app called "Flo" and start using it chaotically. Don't ask anyone how to use it. Just use it. The more, the better. Let's Christmas tree that data.

As a software developer who loves to screw the data and a person who will do ANYTHING can to protect women for the next 4 years, I am so excited to begin tracking my manstrual cycle

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Good bot

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am gonna get it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Suggestion: log your hours gaming instead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So 16 to 20 hours?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Edit. Doh. I misread as "i don't get it" lol. I'm leaving it anyway for anyone who needs an explanation.

Trump won the US election. The republican plan for trumps presidency is project 2025. In project 2025 they treat women as third class citizens (men are first and fetuses are second). Of the many plans for women, project 2025 aims to use data to identify pregnant women in order to ensure fetuses aren't aborted. Under project 2025 abortion is illegal, and miscarriages are treated as an abortion until proven that it was a natural miscarriage. The republican party has already started approaching period tracking apps for data, and this post is suggesting to pollute the data in period tracking apps with the idea of making it harder to identify missed periods due to pregnancy.

On a more practical note, however, individual's tracking their periods should be using open source software to track periods instead to prevent a company from giving away your data.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What's the point of spamming one specific menstrual tracker / women's health app? Lack of better hobbies? Or is there some controversy around the company behind it? Or just general state of freedom and surveillance in the USA?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The idea is that they'll be used to track pregnancy and hurt people in certain states. Chaos will help the situation.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Computer databases are kind of purpose-built to organize a lot of (arbitrary) information. I seriously doubt this kind of chaos is going to make even the slightest difference. It's probably just giving people some false sense of security while any information that's stored in any cloud can still be retrieved. And effortlessly be matched to whomever they like to oppress. At least if it's associated with some account, email or specific phone.