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If anyone can find more pixels for me i would appreciate it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

As a non-english speaker, I appreciate «Y'all» 'cause it always bug me the absence of a way to reference more than one individual in English.

What you mean «You» is used to reference both one person and a crowd? English is fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

I have a VERY southern friend. He once said "y'all all".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought y'all was just a gender neutral term combining you and all.

How would it be wrong or offensive to refer to refer to trans person as "y'all"? Genuine question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How would it be wrong or offensive to refer to refer to trans person as "y'all"?

"Y'all not welcome in these parts"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You got me there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Y’all actually has gained particular traction in the north through the queer community. Most trans people I know use y’all even if their geographic location doesn’t indicate they should

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

There are pride buttons that say Y'all means all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Second person never has a gender in English. Saying "you" should also be fine, or "thee" if you feel like getting your quaker on.

Special requests notwithstanding - the platinum rule here is just to accommodate whatever you reasonably can.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

We are afraid to use common greetings now? How about we all refer to each other as "carbon units"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Am I the only one who actually looked for more pixels for this guy?

Anywho, here you go my guy:

Edit: hmmm, Lemmy seems to be compressing it. Here's a link.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

How you fuckers doing, eh?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm from Maryland and I said "howdy" in New York and I got roasted by the CVS clerk for 2 full minutes. And then I said "do y'all have Tylenol" in hopes that she could point me in the direction. Another minute of her roasting me...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It was too late. I was hung over as fuck anyways.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

"y'all" fills a legitimately useful gap the English language has. Other languages have a word like this.

Edit: also something cool I just found out, some languages have a way to disinguish "we" (you and I), and "we" (me and the rest of us, not you). It's called clusivity and is missing from European languages. Many indigenous languages of the Americas and Oceania have this, as well as Vietnamese and northern dialects of Mandarin.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (13 children)

People where I am from call everyone "you guys" - men, women, trans, doesn't matter, everyone is just "you guys" even when it's a woman addressing a group of women.

The literal meaning isn't gender neutral, but in actual practice, it 100% is.

As for "y'all" or "you all", I don't see how it could possibly be interpreted as offensive to any gender.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Dude is also situationally gender neutral. Saying "Hey dude" to a trans woman is misgendering her but exclaiming "Yo dude check this out!" or "Duuuude no way" is perfectly acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"You People" is the one to be avoided

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"howdy fuckers" is the opposite as it sounds bad on paper but in practice it goes over well (except with middle aged moms)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"G'day cunts" goes over either extremely well or extremely poorly, with no in-between

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

Ah the classic way to say hello in Australian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

What do you mean "you people"?

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I would have thought that “y’all” is even more so gender neutral and therefore less offensive/more accepted. It’s a contraction of “you all” right?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Having exported myself from the deep South to Yankee land, "Y'all have a good one!" never fails to brighten the day of someone working a cash register.

In general, folks up here really like southern politeness. They think sugar wouldn't melt in my mouth. I get stopped in stores to talk all the time. Pretty frequently, they just give me a discount. I thought Yankees were supposed to be rude, but they're actually really nice in public.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 days ago (10 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Y'all left y'uns out of the map

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yall is the genderless southern hospitality greeting.

No bullshit no hate. Only yall

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've used y'all intentionally as a gender neutral term for years in the south.

Lately I've even seen "y'all means all" used as a pride slogan in the south.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I’m from Australia and I’ve started calling all groups of people yall because it’s gender neutral… very unaustralian term, and I love so much the irony of iconic southern terms being used to support trans activism

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It feels like a standard case of it's fine until it isn't. I wouldn't worry about it and only drop it from your vocabulary if you notice it causing harm.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

I mean, neither "you" nor "all" is a gendered term in any way

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Fwiw, second person is fine as long as there's no misgendering... It's like calling someone by their name

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Youse LOL, almost lost it when I heard it one time

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

All y'all never heard youse before?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Y'all is the opposite of offensive for trans people. I lived in the south for a while, and I now use y'all specifically to be inclusive. I wouldn't say "you guys" is offensive to trans women, but I would say for me and likely other trans women it briefly brings to mind being misgendered in the past, so I would call it a small kindness to ube as gender neutral as possible.

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