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[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

louise fletcher was born to play her; rip.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kai Winn is a great character though??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

been appreciating Kai Winn and Gul Dukat much more while re-watching DS9 for the first time lately, great writing and acting, she is a scary political operator

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

gul dukat is a fascinating character to me too; trekspertise's video on him made me realize how fleshed out he was despite being at secondary character at the beginning like nog.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

One of the greatest villain characters of all time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

i think it's a testament to louise fletcher's skill that we love to hate her so much; she's a natural like she was as nurse ratched and grandma gallagher on the american shameless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Indeed, but it's a well-observed bit of writing too imo

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

very much so and i think it's making ds9 age REALLY well.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

no one would ever say this

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Right, so we can actually estimate this, if we have some faith in Zipf's Law as a model for character popularity, and assume that popularity will roughly follow total appearances.

The a and b parameters in 1/(rank+b)^a can't be entirely arbitrary, since the sum for the first 9 ranks—representing the main cast, each credited in over 100 episodes—should be plausible (probably over 90% of people's favourites). So adjustments to one necessitate changes to the other parameter. Playing around this way, we can look at the popularity of the 23rd most frequently appearing character, Kai/Vedek Winn (14 episodes).

Even assuming a lower rank, since the global audience for DS9 is at least 10 million, you need quite large values for a to create a model where not even one viewer regards Kai Winn as their favourite. Much lower ranks (small changes don't make much difference) are needed to change that.

Of course, whether anyone would actually admit to Winn being their favourite is another factor entirely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fucker ain't meeting no Prophets, fucker's gonna see some pah wraiths.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

but he's nowhere near the fire caves. lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

making up a guy to be mad at

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

but louise fletcher did kai winn SO DAMN WELL!!! lol