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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

At least it wasn't a Green Hat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

So, we all agree this is obvious rage-bait and just trolling? Nobody is actually believing this is true or that anyone feels like that, or even if they do that they need to be acknowledged and validated by addressing such a ridiculous claim?

Right...? Don't feed the trolls is the OG internet rule, I wish it weren't forgotten...

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If anything modern day santa is more of an invention of Coca-Cola than Christianity or Paganism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Santa isn't red and white for no reason

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

Santa is pagan, they put that dude on cereal boxes.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's always baffling how people can define something as unacceptable. Says who? You? Who are you to just make that decision so unilaterally?

You can have your opinion, but it's just that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And their opinion is that this is unacceptable and outrageous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess. The way it's formulated purposefully removes them from the statement, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

That's how it always goes. It's not that I'm offended. Is that it is offensive, objectively. It's silly.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's more infuriating is that they immediately gave in and removed it without any discussion

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Ehhh better to be safe that have a discussion on religion and persecution in the issues board. Then it doesnt linger as an open ticket.

I feel like discussion about something like this is better suited for like a forum or a dedicated discussion channel. They discuss in a followup on the issue thread that they think even one offended person is too many, and they want to be as neutral as possible, which I think is commendable.

I think even if its a troll, its better to err on the side of "what if it is a real person, and they are offended." Obviously, this needs to be taken within reason, like intolerance is not a valid reason etc etc.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

As an atheist I really think getting upset over Xmas is about as stupid as thinking Santa Claus is communist for wearing red. It's a social holiday! Enjoy it! Go to parties, put up lights, exchange presents. Think of Santa as a red Winnie the Pooh and chill TF out.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait till they see the vlc logo during christmas ...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I remember correctly it switches to this logo during christmas

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

Anyone else get the urge to pull the hat down?

[–] [email protected] 249 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Christmas is no longer a holiday that honors the Christian god, it's a holiday that honors the god of capitalism, money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

We've stopped with presents in my family, except for the kids. And they don't get showered in them, a few things they really want, preferably cheap. Everyone else just wants nice food and family coziness.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I just use it to have a merry time with my family. Corporations try to co-opt everything; Christmas is no different. Is Pride about honoring greed and capitalism just because companies make everything rainbow? No, and neither is Christmas even though they try their best with that too. The only difference is buying gifts, but Christmas is about more than that, and homemade gifts are always an option.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Cool, so it's still worth eschewing /s

I would like to note though that xmas is a very sore time of year for a lot of people (mostly queer, but others too) who do not have a good relationship with their family

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's why I think it's important that we bring Christmas back to its true religious roots: Fertility, hunting, and maybe a cult of the dead.

Well, that and I just kind of want to piss off all of my pearl clutching relatives.

But seriously, thank you for the reminder that this can be a particularly hard season.

I hope your solstice is marked by good times with real friends and chosen family.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What religious symbol? Saint Nicholas had nothing to do with the fat guy dressed in red that coca cola made up. The hat is fine goddammit

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isn't capitalism a religion?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Cult of the line must go up

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, they took inspiration from Clement Clarke Moore's (1922) "Twas the night before Christmas" and illustrations from Thomas Nast (1881) showing him in red with the sack over his shoulder. Certainly, Coca Cola has solidified the modern image with their ad campaign though starting in 1931. Src

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

TIL coca cola didn't create it, ty

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

I hope they never walk past a church…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

Couldn't decide which one, so here are both...

[–] [email protected] 115 points 1 day ago (12 children)

And spawned an even longer shit fit.

Some people just want to be offended and we should simply let them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Love the fact that this spawned new issues complaining about the debugger icon promoting violence against insects.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Wait, did I read that correctly and they replaced the hat with a snowflake?? Hahahaha

And yes, people often forget that generally offense is taken. When it's intentionally given, it's pretty clear.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm from Australia and snowflakes during December is hemispherist and offensive to us down under.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

they replaced the hat with a snowflake?

As someone from the global south i find the snowflake in winter offensive!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t think an actual Jew would equate a religious symbol with a swastika

But I do agree that religious imagery should never be in public

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Or equate a santa hat to a religious symbol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I don't think Santa = swastika but it is super tiresome when Halloween ends and suddenly there's Christmas shit everywhere. I know it's more a factor of capitalism than Christianity, but it even infects the meager Hanukkah end caps we get. There's frequently products being sold that are clearly just Christmas goods painted blue and white (argh) paraded around as Hanukkah goods. Fuckin blue and white pine tree tchotchkes? C'mon what the fuck is that? Hell, one year I saw "chocolate Maccabes" which were literally just chocolate Santa candies in a different foil.

It's all expected, it happens every year (though the holiday seems to take up more of the calendar each year), but damn is it tiresome. And don't get me started on the music!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's true that Christians have killed more people and commited more genocides, and are obsessed with putting their religion in everything... I think I'm on the side of this guy tbh

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Of course you are...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As an organisation they have historically been and continue to be, truly shitty.

But what are you using for sources here ?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Sing along kids! Mr. Ghosty the Christmas troll...

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Christmas is religion yes, but Santa doesn't really have anything to do with religion other than being on Christmas right?

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