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The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.

The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.

Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.

Hamas also criticized the decision.

The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Those warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on, but it's still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not exactly. The ratifying countries are bound by contract to arrest them. Plus It's a serious issue not to do it, because this would delegitimize the ICC as an institution, which is not in the interest of most ratifying countries. So it essentially boils down to a choice between losing the court as a valuable weapon against war criminals or bad relations with Israel.

What happens after an arrest is another matter and I think that is where the real pressure would happen

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago

Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (7 children)

This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (10 children)

As someone living in Israel, that's a nice thought but a fundamental misunderstanding of Israeli politics. The vast majority of Israelis not only support war but support a complete and total genocide of every Muslim in the middle east. Furthermore a very large amount of Israelis see the hostages as an acceptable loss if it means they can kill more Palestinian civilians. Its not "a few bad apples", Israel is a fundamentally rotten "nation" that only exists on genocide and war.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've heard that it's quite jarring to be living in Israel as someone who's progressive. Like, it's not just about state suppression of protests, but the levels of social condemnation that you get when the media landscape is so heavily skewed

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

Israelis are largely in favor of it. Netanyahus approval has skyrocketed, when they launched the offensive on Lebanon and Israelis opposing the wars and occupation are increasingly targeted by the government and government affiliated "settler" terror groups. These terror groups have ramped up their pogroms in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and decent Israelis who get in their way are beaten while the IDF watches.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Genocide takes a lot more than a few bad apples making a whoopsie.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not such a thing as bad apple in an occupied population

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

The majority of Israelis do want war. They only want the hostages out more.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

He first needs to come out of Israel to visit a country that recognizes the ICC...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And then the country still needs to actually arrest him. Am I right, Mongolia?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Mongolia is landlocked between Putin's country and China. Not arresting him was the same as a cop deciding that maybe they shouldn't arrest a mafia don on their own, while surrounded by the gang.

This is a tad bit different.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I doubt any country will have the stones to arrest him in the face of US pressure.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At least with America going full mask off as a force of evil, the rest of the world can stop waiting on us to do the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I think the mask truly went off in 2003. Dubya was an international terrorist in the highest office of the world.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seriously if anything good can come from this the U.S. needs to stop fucking around with other countries sovereignty and handle it's own affairs for a few decades.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

There is number of countries already said they would.

"The Netherlands, Switzerland, Ireland, Italy, and Spain all said they would meet their commitments and obligations regarding the Rome Statute and International Law."

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] -1 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

One thing, why are the Hamas officials never named, and we never get their reaction? I'd really like I to be able to despise both side of that shit medal evenly.

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