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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago (3 children)

In the interview, Merkel stated that Vladimir Putin, at the beginning of his presidency, had no intention of attacking Ukraine, and his plan gradually took shape over the years, partly due to the behaviour of the West.

Did he also have no intention of continuing to occupy Georgia and Moldova and the West forced him to continue the occupation and then invade Georgia in 2008?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So did the interviewer ask her this? Cause they should have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Not directly, but she did say that the Bucarest Summit lead to the invasion of Georgia in 2008.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

She is talking about the year 2000. It took 8years for the war in Ukraine and 14 until he took Crimea and 22 years until the full scale invasion. Is it really that hard to imagine that Putin is not some incredible mastermind, but does something big, when he believes there is a good chance of success or something else changes. In 2008 Georgia had made moves to join NATO, so Russia intervened. 2014 was the Orange Revolution and Ukraine was weak, so he attacked. If he wanted to take all of Ukraine all the time, that was actually also the perfect moment for that. However it took him until 2022, when he thought the West was weak due to Covid and a lot more propaganda, for him to attack. It might also very well be that he changed his mind on a lot of things, being in power for over two decades and yes the behavior of the West certainly was part of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Putins court ideogog wrote the book on russian empire path. They have followed it to the letter for decades. Even before ger reign. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Hey someone should try to find a ladder - it might help her to climb down a bit from her own asshole.

For real, she killed any possibility of a response because she was too invested in nordstream 2. It was a conflict of interest, and it made a difference, and this war, right now, is the consequence.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago

show me a conservative that accepts blame for anything

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

Plenty of blame to go around. Where is Gerhard Schroder these days?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

She also fed the afd.. letting in a million refugees, telling everyone it will be fine and then not actually doing anything to prevent the issues everyone saw coming.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And somehow now it‘s all the greens fault.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I will never understand how that works.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

@Badeendje @Skiluros well, i'am thankful for 1 million ppl in our overaged society. And she and fckg Obama fckes it up in Syria letting this genocidal tyrant mass murder and gas their citizens! So this is actually the only thing she was right about!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not saying she should have stopped the migrants or whatever.. but integrating a million people will mean you need to invest heavily in making sure these people land properly, get the help they need (including medical and psychological where needed, language and integration, preventing ghetto forming, housing.. etc etc) I'd argue she came up short.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Why are you censoring yourself?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

A Boomer who refuses to accept and acknowledge their personal failing and complicit decisions?

Quelle surprise

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Ukraine was essentially a Russian client state until a few years later. I imagine very few wanted Ukraine in the alliance until a little more of the corruption was taken care of. Germany definitely benefited from cheap oil and gas from Russia while Russia did bad things but I think these are two different issues.