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Forgive me if this is truly a stupid question but I cannot find the answer and I have been afraid to ask.

Am attaching a screen shot to assist my babbling below.

When surfing thru the various communities (and please feel free to correct me if I use a wrong term here) I will see many that have the same name but only difference is that at the end of that name, there is an ‘@xyz.ca’ or similar.

I assumed these were just the same communities only started on different servers?

However I have seen several - like the one where my arrow points to that doesn’t have an ‘@‘ location at the end of it. Can someone explain to me the difference here? Thanks

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe that indicates that particular community is "local" to the instance of Lemmy you're signed into. Since it is local they don't need to add the rest of the instance address for the community.

(So if you were logged into lemmy.world when you took the screenshot that would mean that is [email protected])

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Ah okay thanks. I had thought this might be what it was but did not want to assume as much.

That makes sense then. Thanks everyone for the answers!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assumed these were just the same communities only started on different servers?

This is correct. Anyone can start a community on any Lemmy (Or KBin) server, and they can name it whatever they want. When a community is on a remote Lemmy instance, you see the @ suffix to help you see which one it is referring to. When no @ suffix is shown, that means that the community you are looking at is hosted on the instance that you are currently viewing Lemmy content through.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

but it isn't the same communitiy. it's a completely different community on a different server, only with the same name. (and an omitted server name means it's on the one you're currently at.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So is the idea that a community coalesces to a winner-takes-all single server, or is there a way to... uh ... federate (?) ... same-theme communities from different servers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

they are federated. you cannot only see all those communities, despite them being on various different servers, you can join and access all of them from each and every server. And the content gets sent through the network. As a user you can practically ignore the server part of a community. In this case it is important, in order to distinguish those communities because people created the community with the same name multiple times on multiple servers.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

That (well, this) community was created on lemmy.world and your account is on lemmy.world as well, thus it doesn't "need"/show the full address.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Users and communities hosted on the instance you're viewing (in this case it's lemmy.world) don't show their home instance.

i.e. my name appears as just "bewilderedraven" to other lemmy.world users reading this but users logged into other instances (such as lemmy.ml) should see something like "@[email protected]" the some applies to communities.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy is federated, so there are multiple "similar" communities on different instances. Here you are on lemmy.world if there isnt amy @ ... if there is something like @lemmy.ml it is on lemmy.ml. You can subscribe to them on every instance ( only if the instance is blocked ), comment and create posts there

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why doesn't [email protected] show up when I log into kbin.social and try to subscribe from that instance?

I started it here: https://lemmy.world/c/flyfishing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only thing I can think of is kbin isn’t federating with lemmy.world completely. I’m pretty sure kbin stuff should show up on lemmy and vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think I got it working: https://kbin.social/search?q=flyfishing%40lemmy.world

Had to search from the address bar by typing the lemmy.world server name in the url.

Subbed from my kbin account for you so it should federate right, now.

Hope this helped!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Until someone on kbin subscribes to it via putting in the url directly it doesn't show up as kbin dose not know it exists iirc. Same thing with Lemmy, if someone on your instance isn't subscribed to a community on another instance then it doesn't show up until someone dose

Edit: Getting a 404 error when I try to go there to subscribe, as money_loo said its probably a backend issue with kbin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can I get that process started? Where do I put the url in directly to subscribe from kbin if/when the 404 error is corrected?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Looks like someone has already subbed, so it should show up now, but essentially you just manually put in the url and go there. for example this page on kbin is https://kbin.social/m/[email protected], just change that to https://kbin.social/m/[email protected] and subscribe with a kbin account.

Turns out there is a few other ways to do it as well, this stack exchange post should have some more information if you want it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Damn, 20k subs already!?!

I could have sworn it was 7k like 3 days ago.

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