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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22762968

Complete lack of imagination!

Just because someone use the internet in a different way than you does not mean they are a bot or a troll or a state actor with malicious intent.

If you enjoy other people profiling you by looking at your post history then you do you and let others post online too.

You can't be pro-privacy and then see someone be anti-post history profiling and then call them out for it. That person is actually more pro-privacy than you!

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think it's a common misconception that Lemmy is about privacy or free speech. It's more social media and there are other platforms to cater for anonymous conversations or spreading unpopular or illegal content. This platform isn't designed with that in mind...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If Lemmy isn't made with (improved) privacy or free speech in mind, what's it made for? What incentive do people have to switch to it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

When a site tries to become profitable it often becomes worse. I am on lemmy to have somewhere to go when that other site is no longer usable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think it's mainly about freedom. And having a platform that we (the users) control.

It's still social media. So we're limited in what we can do. And federation, transparency etc also mean we're spreading information across various servers and making them available. That might clash with privacy at times. But I mean posting content to the public and at the same time wanting it to be hidden is contradictory anyways?!

And free spech is difficult. We had some people try to invent platforms that cater for this. They usually get filled with trolls and nazis and die quickly. So I'd say "free speech" is undesirable anyways.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Federated systems handle free speech very well; you can run your own server and post anything you want there without interference from other server admins. You have 100% freedom of speech with Lemmy.

You do not, however have 100% freedom of reach. If your server is a frequent source of content or behavior other admins find unacceptable, most of them will block it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If this platform isn't about freedom of (more) speech, what freedom is it about?

I can't think of a single reason anybody's ever given to use Lemmy besides referencing either privacy from something, or increased freedom over other platforms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think Zak has a better take on that than me. I mean ultimately we have all freedom one level further down. We can use this software for pretty much anything. And even modify it. Whatever we like. We can choose to implement total free speech. Or we can decide to moderate. We can talk about privacy, or all kinds of things.

And it's not some company who makes the rules and says we can't share illegal content (for example) or hate on each other...

That's our freedom to decide. But we implicitly agree on something. I for example don't like hate, misinformation, fascists etc. I block them. And I remove that content. So I technically I take away other people's freedom to say whatever they want in my communities and on my instance. And a lot of other admins and moderators do, too. And since this network is made up of individuals... That leads to a certain agreement... Otherwise you'd force me to hang out with people I absolutely don't like, and that cuts into my freedom.

So you can say anything you want. But I can exclude you from parts of the network that I control. But you can do the same.

And since it's federated: we can have one instance doing one thing and another one doing something else. I've not seen any true free speech instance yet. But you could start one. And that's freedom.

And related to privacy: Here, your data isn't used for advertising, sold to third-party companies etc.

[–] Rose 2 points 3 weeks ago

Have you heard of the word "their"?