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Main points: He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

popular elections in an ecosystem 1/4 bots, in which the admins hold ultimate unilateral authority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spez is such a nice guy, protecting the innocent users from the greedy elites who control the site. /s

1/4 bots, 1/4 advertising, 1/4 Onlyfans "entrepreneurs" and 1/4 users. What could possibly go wrong?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Doesn't matter what changes he makes I'm never going back to that site that it's filled with karma farmers, bots and onlyfans spamers

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yea I'm actually glad there's an exodus of people who care. The ones who don't, I don't care about them either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When the subreddits went private I visited reddit three times, then a couple of times the next day, then once the following day. I haven't visited today and honestly I'm not missing it too much. If I get the urge to visit I just come here and it acts as my reddit nicotine patch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just wish it wasn't always the first few results when you look up information on certain topics. Especially for really niche issues since it's often the only place with answers right now. That's basically that only time I visit reddit at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can avoid giving them hits by pasting the url into archive.org sometimes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Removing relay from my home screen has helped a lot. I've accidentally gone to old reddit a couple times and didn't click on any links but most times I catch myself and come here instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yea I had to swap my icons... Easy way to break the habit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I've been the same, and when I've browsed the comments there is so much aggro. Makes me wonder if it's always been like that and I was just blind to it.

Overall, the experience here is 1000 times better than Reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well this will bring me back to reddit... So I can vote out the mods who want to reopen the sub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's a good reason

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly fuck reddit. I was so tired of it, but there was nowhere else to go. At least I can develope a more healthy relationship with social media here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was logging into Reddit to delete my posts (Which Chrome removed the Nuke Reddit History extension, thanks I guess) and on the front page was just gross homophobic memes. Yeah, I don't think I'll ever going back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Is the CEO going to be popularly elected too?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No way we're gonna see reddit elections and campaigns this is hilarious

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? How does he not see that this is a terrible idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Probably because he has back end control to make sure elections give him what he wants with the veneer of popular support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

come work for free

No thanks

builds an entire self-hosted instance of an open source, federated social media network...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He plans to make moderators popularly elected to more easily vote them out.

I totally second this idea. The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

Hopes the next frontier will be subreddits as businesses.

Even better. All posts in these subs can be advertisements, perfect.

He does not want Reddit employees to take on the work. Moderator hours were valued at 3.2 million last year, 3% of reddit’s revenue.

Yeah, don't even spend 3% of revenues as a cost of doing business. The soon-to-be-community-elected mods will do it for free. Super.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The last time we tried to get the internet to seriously decide on something we got Boaty McBoatface.

And lo, the Internet looked down upon it's handiwork, and verily, t'was awesome.

All posts in these (business) subs can be advertisements, perfect.

And nobody will ever go there. And, two years down the track, u/spaz will hoik up the pricing or cut them off entirely because they're making money off of a non-profitable Reddit. "We want to work with the business subs but they're not interested in talking to us and have all thrown their toys out of the pram and shut down".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this is gonna be awful

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

wood grain grippin'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While undeniably shitty, how amazing would it be if after instituting popular voting on mods more subreddits voted to go private? Not likely but it is tempting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In r/trackers we had a vote to close the sub or remain open. 1st option won, but one mod overrule it so it stayed open lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel one of the reasons many subs have not gone indefinitely dark is that the mods too are attached to their communities, and probably rightfully so. If they are going to get booted out, which may easily happen when you leave it up to the Reddit horde to decide, then they might just decide to shut down the sub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I made a hard decision to leave my sub two years ago; I couldn't keep up with the ever-backing up mod queue, and I was going through a divorce (good thing, I promise), and work was picking up steam. I had adopted it from /r/redditrequest several years ago because it was a fun novelty sub with like 8 posts that had clearly been dead for a couple years, with [deleted] as the creator. I revived it, and now it's a nearly 1.2M user shitposting sub. It's beautiful. It's my baby and all growed up... and it's name is /r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR.

Miss that place. They even tried to participate in the blackout.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He referred to the mods as landed gentry, which is such a gross and lazy way to try to get people on his side. It has a major flaw too: mods are unpaid, the whole idea behind gentry is that they make money from owning their land.

Let me help you out spez, you piece of shit, if you want to criticize the millions of dollars of unpaid work that mods do for their communities try comparing them to an HOA committee, that at least has a kernel of truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's even more hilarious when the label is much more accurately applied to capital owners such as himself; they are the ones actually making money off of other people's labour via their ownership (of a company rather than land).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm betting it will not be one account one vote. He'll stack the deck, just wait.

Even if it is one account one vote, the bot armies will be there to ensure the outcome the admins want. Moderator puppets to do the will of the admin team, fuck us pleb slobs that are the community and make his shitty site worth visiting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watch subs elect actual Nazis, trolls, incels and transphobes to be moderators for the lols and then the site ends up being a cesspool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So you're saying it isn't yet?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly like, if he makes it so mods can be popularly elected/unelected, well, he's gonna end up with the other sort of Reddit protestor -- the feral shitposters -- tearing down every mod on the whole page. I assume he would have to reverse that policy at exactly the moment he gets rid of his ... enemies, I guess? -- or else ViolentAcrezMAGAEdition is gonna be running r/worldnews with Roger Stone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's the bots that'll rule.

There's a shit load of botting services out there you can pay to upvote your agenda. And those services have the revenue generation to pay for the exorbitant API access.

Unless a sub is private... anyone can vote in polls, even if it's restricted. Reddit may even have it's own bots jumping in at that point.
I wonder which is a less fair, russian annexation referendums or reddit mod votes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll go back to reddit for a day to vote him off of r/programming

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also the long game of voting in the most appalling mods you can find.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hey. I volunteer to change my reddit profile pic to a picture of me- with my pasty white legs- wearing socks with sandals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The correct response is scorched earth, time to delete the protesting subreddits. the CEO has zero respect for those folks who built those community’s, might as well help remove the actual value of reddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deleting the subreddits would be an easily reversible action for admins. Users will need to edit over comments to actually make a change that wouldn’t easily be reverted. Idk, maybe it could be. It would have to be a lot more users too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm positive they made a backup before announcing the change. We would have to edit the comments to something not easily detected like random words.

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